It’s a job at a Non-Profit Wolf Sanctuary in the mountains of Colorado, Pikes Peak to be specific.
Does it then either give a livable wage, or give you short enough hours to accommodate a second job?
Minimum wage for three month probation then it’s experience, so I bet NOT a livable wage either after that.
A week and a half gross pay just to get the training and radio needed to do the job, they probably can’t figure out why nobody applied.
Some may do it because of their love of animals and nature. But they will quickly realize that it’s just another business when they see customers paying 150$ for a 1h tour wich the guide makes only 7$ on and the boss cashes all the rest.
if you have to give someone money to start a job the job doesn’t exist
three-month probationary basis
Stating this indicates they will never give you an ounce of trust, nor the benefit of the doubt in any situation.
The scam is you give them 450 bucks and they never call you back.
The probation and other bs is just plausible deniability.
You can be sure none of the radios they ever get back are in good enough condition too.Actually, it’s a common practice in many countries. Where I live, law mandates that both the employee and the employer can terminate the contract during the first three months, immediately, and without reason.
I’d bet that this is in the US, where at-will employment (either party may terminate) is generally universal and indefinite.
That sounds a lot closer to Canadian employment law, not US law. In most states, at-will employment is indefinitely 2-way. Employers are usually not required to give you any notice/reason/benefit beyond what is in the employment contract you sign. Conversely, employees have the same freedom. I’ve been at my job over ten years now and I could quit today with 0 notice or penalty. I don’t have to tell them why or where I’m going, just return my work equipment and collect a prorated final check. I could do a lot more damage to them than they could do to me and I like it that way.
Losing your job with 0 notice is catastrophic for most people. Especially when you have to hope your job offers severence out of the kindness of their heart
I hate when jobs make you pay a fee/deposit to essentially rent equipment from them and then tell you “Oh you’ll get it back if you return this in the same condition it was in when you got it.” because my brain is wired to think all companies will be scummy enough to keep the money if they find the most insignificant little scratch that can only be seen under a microscope.
And I bet their twonway radio they ask 150$ deposit for is a baofang at 20$ on Amazon.
Mfs dosen’t even own the means of production and are extracting surplus value anyway.
“Nobody wants to work” --Kim Kardashian
here’s the link to the posting.
I am surprised this is in the USA, as I didn’t think it legal. (Of course, there are lots of job ads that do not conform to legally.)
I’m pretty certain that your standard car insurance would not cover you for using your vehicle to give tours, which is what it sounds like the job is.
To be fair, they probably have a lot of really bad employees apply. However this sounds awful
This seems like they took all the downsides of contracting and all the downsides of being an employee and none of the upsides of either.
Paying for a training fee at a job is in the same order as paying for an online iq test.
You cannot require employees to pay for mandatory work-related training.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/does-employer-pay-training.html
Just because something is illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. There’s no good enforcement mechanism.
“Must live in the middle of nowhere. Must have a vehicle you will not be paid to maintain. Must provide your own medical insurance so we don’t have to provide it legally. Must give us $450 to start. Must be cool with making minimum wage for a minimum of 3 months. Probably forever. Good luck paying for rent, increased gas and maintenance on your car, and your own medical on minimum wage. I hope you die. Welcome to the family.”
If you want to hear something grim, in the US legally (at the federal level) your employer doesn’t even have to cover health insurance if it’s under 50 full-time employees.
I don’t get what employers have to do with your health insurance in the first place. Is this some weird way to keep you working at the threat of your healthcare being taken away?
The US is weird af
Yes.
In Germany your employer usually needs to pay 50% of your health insurance, given you work over a certain hour per week threshold. I mean in the end it’s by convention and as employee you do not profit as a higher wage would be preferable. Historically grown, but not solely a US thing (even if not really comparable).
Do you also lose your healthcare insurance if you get fired, and also does your employer determine the insurer and coverage levels offered?
I am not sure if you are being cynical tbh. I was reacting to a comment stating it’s weird your employer plays a role in health insurance in US, my point was he does in Germany too.
Of course our social system is totally different. The tax payer will usually cover your insurance in case you lose your job. Coverage levels are not a thing, everybody has more or less the same level which is rather high compared to other countries. However there is private insurance for high earners and state employees that do not pay into the public fund, meaning we do have a two class system which is pretty unfair.
It’s all the same offerings which are picked by the state, although companies can choose to add on to that if they want to, and then the company just used that, if you lose your job then you’re covered by state benefits. Then if you get another job you go back to the same type of insurance.
Of course if you’re rich you can pay for your own dedicated insurance which will probably be nicer but ultimately you don’t need to.
It’s a tax break for corporations, and bulk sales to companies is easier for health care providers than working with individuals. The squeeze comes together after a time.
i’m 40 years old, and i’ve been working since i was 17.
i have never had any sort of job that paid any sort of benefits. i simply get paid the money i earn from the jobs i do, and that’s it. i’ve never had any sort of insurance, etc. it’s kind of ridiculous. most of my jobs are contract positions. i can’t even remember the last time i worked for any sort of hourly wage.
i haven’t had a job with health insurance benefits since the early 90s. and it was a lousy plan that took nearly half my net in premiums.
Moreover, most tourist guide gigs are summer things so they’re unlikely to go beyond a training period(one month?) Plus three months probation.
The Colorado Wolf and Wildlife Center, the ones who posted this job, run tours all year long.
Tell me again, why is communism bad, if this is capitalism?
To be fair, I doubt anyone actually applied for this job. Just because they’re making this offer, doesn’t mean that’s market rate.
Can we not name and shame this “employer?”
https://kbin.social/m/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world/t/785471/-/comment/4762052
Burn that place to cinders.
You gonna burn the wolves with it? Because this place is a Non-Profit Wolf and Wildlife Education center on Pikes Peak in Colorado.
