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A great video about the Manifest v3 and how Google is trying to make you view ads.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    get firefox and ublock origin.

    its so fucking simple, why do people have such weird attachment to chrome??

    • jmp242@sopuli.xyz
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      7 months ago

      Not so much chrome, but many browsers (like my favorite Vivaldi) are chromium based. I wish they’d just keep uBlock going in the chromium rebuilds, but IDK if that’s possible. Seems like it should be to me though.

      Also, we switched at work from Firefox because somehow they broke system level updates a few years ago, and nothing I could do was able to figure out why their installer stopped working without first having someone run the uninstall graphically to update to the new version. It would just say Firefox wasn’t a valid windows exe till I manually removed it. And even the Mozilla Enterprise list seemed flummoxed. Honestly, I think they should have reverted the installer change, or even just use a standard installer that doesn’t have this problem, but hey.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        This is precisely why I’ve never found Chromium based browsers to be of much relevance. These are just skins on top of the rendering engine which is the core of the browser and that’s entirely controlled by Google. People kept ignoring this and now we’re in a situation where Chrome and its derivatives dominate the market to the point where sites no longer care whether they follow W3C specs as long as Chrome renders them. We’re now back in pretty much the same situation we were in the days of IE.

        It’s depressing that people were unable to understand where things were going until Google started doing blatantly evil things. The only thing that was keeping Google in check before was the fact that it was lack of market dominance. Google is an ads company, and there is a huge conflict of interest with them being the gatekeepers to the internet.

    • Charger8232@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      Fun fact: This is my favorite comment in all of Lemmy, and I’ve been monitoring Lemmy for months. This is my favorite simply for the one question of “Why do people have such a weird attachment to Chrome?”

      I will find an answer one day.

    • lemmyreader@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Agreed on using Firefox/LibreWolf and uBlock Origin, I love that combination. I think the thing is that Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones (I don’t mind, I hardly ever use mobile to browse), and long time habits can be hard to break for some people.

      • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch
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        7 months ago

        Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones

        Not with the ads (Firefox Android has uBlock).

      • Ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 months ago

        Yup, can say that firefox is quite a bit slower on android (but honestly it’s still quite ok, unless it decides to loop loading the page, or it bugs out in another way, at least on my phone it’s quite prone to breaking, for comparison brave is really a bit faster than Firefox

        • admiralteal@kbin.social
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          7 months ago

          Way faster when you consider time spent loading and navigating around all the fucking ads. The mobile web without adblock is a dumpster fire of the highest order.

          • Ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 months ago

            Well of course, that’s why I compared brave and not chrome, although the brave adblock sucks sometimes

            But yeah, the firefox on android is good enough to set it as a default browser (never actually noticed that the Google discover page just opens in chrome and ignores your default browser before doing this, interesting how some apps do this too)

            • admiralteal@kbin.social
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              7 months ago

              Yeah the Google News app too. It’s fucking useless – any time you click something on it you get served up a page of nothing but ads, modals, autoplays, and other unusable crap. Bouncing around as it loads. I had to finally uninstall it and switch to just a bookmark on the homescreen instead.

        • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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          7 months ago

          Yeah, it IS slower on android, but adblocking more than makes up for it IMO.

          • Ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 months ago

            Also not only that, but the ability to let me choose if I want to open a link in an app or not, happens countless times with stuff like GitHub automatically wanting to redirect to the app (which sucks)

            • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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              7 months ago

              oh there was a bug a few versions back that did this, but it seems they fixed it now

  • nicetriangle@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    Everyone losing their minds over this like Firefox doesn’t exist.

    Stop using Chrome.

    The reason this is even a big problem is because everyone piled on Google’s browser despite all the obvious reasons that wasn’t gonna be a good idea on the long term.

    I never understood why anybody thought a company – whose principal business is advertising and data mining – wouldn’t eventually rug pull everyone like this with their browser as soon as it hit critical mass for market share.

    • wahming@monyet.ccEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Because there weren’t any great options at the time. Firefox has gotten better, but at that time Chrome was just super fast and lightweight in comparison to all the competitors.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Firefox exists, but it has its issues, it’s def not so great at memory optimization. It will regularly crash on me once I go beyond around 100 tabs regardless of how much system resources I throw at it (Seriously, it did the same thing on a 4 socket server with 512GBs RAM)

      And starts getting sluggish when I even start approaching it. Chrome otoh, reserves a lot of RAM for itself, but at least it can manage it well into the hundreds of tabs I throw at it

      • darkstar@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Please leave this conversation, because you’re probably the only user who goes over 100 tabs. Normal people have about 10 open just for your reference

      • stratosfear@lemmy.sdf.org
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        7 months ago

        I have the opposite experience. I easily can have as many tabs at times and I’ve seen chrome use over 10gb of ram and fully lock at times. I switched to Firefox for that reason and others and it performs much better with that many tabs open. Most ram I’ve seen it using is about 6gb. Minimal and equivalent plugins in both. I’ve never had firefox crash. This across multiple computers. I now have uninstalled chrome everywhere…

    • Tak@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      The person in the video talks so slowly I can listen to it at 1.5x speed. I feel like a jerk because it’s clearly not their first language and I can only imagine how difficult that can be but at 1x speed it’s a seriously slow video.

      To my understanding this is a more in-depth breakdown of how and why browser extensions will not be able to intercept the webpage before the browser displays it and instead it will be executed via scripts on the browser itself. Google claims this is to speed up the process, improve security, and reduce computational power and it does seem to do that but at the expense of the freedom of the browser extensions to alter the web pages being displayed.

      • 1984@lemmy.today
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        7 months ago

        Thank you. Sounds like the typical reasons to remove freedom from the users. :)

  • sweet@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    I wish firefox would just add tab-groups back like chrome has or literally any chrome based browser… Ive tried literally every tab extension in the store and w/e I could find on Github but they all aren’t to my liking. They basically all use a side bar. I just want to slide my 100 tabs of manga and obscure programming blogs out of sight lol other than that, firefox is pretty much better in most ways.