I’ve been grappling with a concern that I believe many of us share: the lack of privacy controls on Lemmy. As it stands, our profiles are public, and all our posts and comments are visible to anyone who cares to look. I don’t even care about privacy all that much, but this level of transparency feels to me akin to sharing my browser history with the world, a discomforting thought to say the least.

While the open nature of Lemmy can foster community and transparency, it also opens the door to potential misuse. Our post history can be scrutinized by creeps or stalkers, our opinions can be nitpicked based on past statements, and we can even become targets for mass downvoting. This lack of privacy control can deter users from actively participating in discussions and sharing their thoughts freely.

Even platforms like Twitter and Facebook, often criticized for their handling of user data, provide some level of access control. Users can choose who sees their timeline: friends/followers, the public or nobody. This flexibility allows users to control their online presence and decide who gets to see their content.

The current state of affairs on Lemmy forces us into a cycle of creating new accounts or deleting old posts to maintain some semblance of privacy. This is not only time-consuming but also detracts from the user experience. It’s high time we address this issue and discuss potential solutions.

One possible solution could be the introduction of profile privacy settings, similar to those found on other social media platforms. This would give users the flexibility to choose their level of privacy and control over their content without having to resort to manual deletion or account purging.

I believe that privacy is a fundamental right, and we should have the ability to control who sees our content. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on this matter. How do you feel about the current privacy settings on Lemmy? What changes would you like to see? Let’s start a conversation and work towards making Lemmy a platform that respects and upholds our privacy.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    If you’re not running your own server privacy policies are not even worth the pixels they’re presented on.

    Literally, you’re just taking a random person’s word for it (whoever the admin is). A website is a black box, you have no idea what’s going on on the back-end.

    The only way to be in complete control of your user data is to run your own server and be literally the only user on it.

    Even then, any public comments you make are, you know… public.

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      *to run your own server,
      be the only person on it,
      and never federate with any other server

      Lemmy’s privacy makes Reddit’s look like Fort Knox by comparison. I think that’s worth considering: an open-source volunteer project requires and leaks way more data than a private corporation it’s mimicking.

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        I think that’s worth considering: an open-source volunteer project requires and leaks way more data than a private corporation it’s mimicking.

        It couldn’t be that one has had loads of VC funding for *checks notes… 15 years. Whereas one has been barely funded for five years and has more people complaining than adding code.

        Actually, it makes perfect sense that an open source project that doesn’t have a big organization behind it isn’t going to have the same capability anywhere near as quickly. Reddit also makes money from advertising. The money for Lemmy is from donations and an abysmally small set of grants.

        Hell, Matrix, an actual open source communications protocol is 9 years old and they still haven’t gotten encrypted video group chats working properly and if I recall correctly still offload a lot of that to JitsiMeet. I was using Matrix/Riot.IM (now Element) in 2016 and it was garbage that barely worked, and updates constantly broke what previously worked, etc. It took time to become better and Matrix does have a whole ass organization backing it.

        For comparison, Lemmy has been around for about five years and they’ve had far less financial backing and developers contributing to the project. Matrix has governments like France and Germany lining up for services for private communications, which means they’ve literally got people paying them for the service of helping manage their Matrix servers. Lemmy doesn’t have the same advantages. They don’t have a service or ads to sell (no ads is part of the appeal.).

        For what its worth, Veilid exists, if you’re looking for a better framework to start with than ActivityPub.

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      8 months ago

      Well there’s still the legal threat. You have to trust someone, unless you’re creating your own hardware and never connecting to the internet

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        8 months ago

        True! All your data will pass over other hardware owned by other people.

        The only real online privacy is not connecting to the internet to begin with.

        The whole system is based on trust.

        Which is why I think some of these privacy demands are straight silly.

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      Even then, any public comments you make are, you know… public.

      As they should be.

      Public comments is how you can find patterns of sketchy user behaviour.

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      Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies. It asks much less of my instance admins if it’s understood that my information was never private to begin with.