Original title: Tens of thousands pack into a protest in Hamburg against Germany’s far right

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      6 months ago

      In the last national election, the AfD got 10% of the vote, relatively low. Currently, they are polling at 23%, considerably higher, but far from a majority. The centre right CDU is currently leading in the polls at 31%. Together, these two parties would have a majority.

      Officially, the CDU rules out any cooperation with the AfD, but such cooperation has already taken place on the local level without the local CDU politicians involved getting kicked out of the party. Overall, the CDU is probably the only major party in Germany that might consider a coalition with the AfD.

      Internally, the CDU appears divided on the issue. Their current leader once talked about allowing cooperation on the local level, but backpedaled after immediate criticism from within the party (source). When polled, 53% of CDU supporters opposed any coalition with the AfD on the state level, with only 36% supporting such a coalition and the remainder being unsure (German source). I haven’t found any polls regarding the local or the national level, but I’m relatively certain that support for a coalition on the national level won’t be any higher among CDU supporters.

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        Friendly reminder that the nazis never won a majority the first time around.

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          As I said, there’s a danger that the centre right might enable our contemporary Nazis. Hopefully, they listen to the majority of their voters who oppose this.

          At least Daniel Günther, CDU governor of Schleswig-Holstein, the state where the CDU has its largest state level majority (43%), is quite outspoken against the AfD. While he clearly belongs to the most centrist wing of the party, his 2022 reelection victory still gives him considerable weight within the party. It also shows that cooperation with the Greens can be a winning strategy for the CDU, at least in the more populous former West Germany.

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            They should be intimately familiar with the results of the last time conservatives turned to fascists to try and cling to power.

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              Listening to what those people say on the news, I get the feeling they are familiar with this, they know it, but they don’t care because they feel like they can profit from it. CxU parties are very far from what the “Christian” in their name would suggest.

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      The best part about climate change is that as more extreme methods are needed to combat it as we twiddle our collective thumbs, the reaction and shift rightwards will be even bigger.

      You saw how mad they got when they thought they were going to loose their hamburgers. Imagine when they literally loose their hamburgers.

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        I think it’s more that the shift to the extremes will be bigger. Whether the shift is more to the left or to the right is determined by community building and media presence.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A prominent member of the Identitarian Movement, Austrian citizen Martin Sellner, presented his “remigration” vision for deportations.

    In Hamburg, police said that some 50,000 gathered on a lakeside promenade Friday afternoon, while organizers put the figure at 80,000 and said many people weren’t able to squeeze into the venue, German news agency dpa reported.

    Kazim Abaci of Unternehmer ohne Grenzen (Businesspeople without Borders), a group that was one of the organizers, said that “we have to end the demonstration early,” citing safety concerns and saying that the fire service was unable to get through the crowd.

    “The message to AfD and its right-wing networks is: We are the majority and we are strong because we are united and we are determined not to let our country and our democracy be destroyed for a second time after 1945,” the year of Nazi Germany’s defeat, Hamburg Mayor Peter Tschentscher told the crowd.

    AfD has sought to distance itself from the extremist meeting, saying it had no organizational or financial links to the event, that it wasn’t responsible for what was discussed there and members who attended did so in a purely personal capacity.

    National polls currently show AfD in second place behind the main center-right opposition bloc and ahead of the parties in the unpopular government.


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    And today we will continue, with protests announced in over 90 cities.
    LIBERTE
    EGALITE
    FCK AFD