I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

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    I honestly don’t feel much has changed. There was perhaps a bit of a “new” feeling in the start and some excitement about the project, but I don’t think people have gotten more aggressive or anything.

    But I think all this probably depends what circles you hang out in. Probably also depends on what instances you federate with.

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    8 months ago

    I feel you: someone was trolling me for what I said about Busuu because I used the words ‘gender’ and ‘sexuality’ as a Christian.

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      My god. I sit here couching my thinly veiled calls for civil disobedience in “in minecraft” and “this is satire,” and here’s someone openly calling for a murder. Maybe next time I want to make a joke about billboard burning being a fun pastime for the whole family, I won’t be as afraid of getting a visit from the fun police

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        9 months ago

        You can just say whatever you want on the internet. Watch this:

        People who eat meat are murderers and deserve to be killed. It’ll reduce the number of murders overall.

        See? It’s easy.

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          I don’t think people thought about it too much. But it shouldn’t be allowed, even if it’s a joke

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      9 months ago

      Holy shit.

      “Work reform” my ass. It’s just a facade for full-blown communist revolution, which in my humble opinion is just a facade for “let’s break everything and replace it with something worse”.

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    No you. /j

    What I found is that hot topics come with the season, in June/July about Ukraine, in July/August about Meta, in October/November about Gaza, in December about Biden. There’s been plenty of charged discussion on these topics, and internal Lemmy dramas.

    However, one thing I see more often here on Lemmy than other places is people updating their comments, being willing to admit they’re wrong or that their comment came off as hostile, and open negotiation in general. Consider the near defederation of programming.dev and lemm.ee, it was resolved amicably to everyone’s benefit.

    I also see people thanking others for softening their tone and being kind, to them I say, keep doing that and encouraging good behaviour and ettiquite online!

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    More exposure in news and media. More asylum seekers from reddit. I haven’t noticed too much change within the communities I’m subscribed to, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s been some change across all of Lemmy. It is a super niche platform that is getting more attention and drawing more general users.

    If someone were doing a school project with large dataset analysis and modeling, it would be cool to compare quantitatively the amount of positive vs negative comments a year ago compared to now.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      More exposure in news and media. More asylum seekers from reddit.

      Definitely. A few months ago, there basically weren’t any crytpo-bros on Lemmy. Now any time I say anything negative about crypto, about six of them jump out of the woodwork to give their big long spiel on “the useful use-cases for NFTs” which I just roll my eyes harder every fucking time over.

      It’s mainly you just have more trolls and aggressive people because we’re beyond the initial group who was actually looking for more community. Admins/mods do a pretty good job of banning trolls, but not until after they’ve shitted up the place for a bit, usually.

      Also, the nature of Lemmy means that someone who gets banned for spamming an article just goes and makes an account on a different instance and then just goes and makes the same post in the same communities literally minutes later.

      Popularity is rising, the bad actors are coming. Oh well.

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        Man one of them was trying to bring their crypto bullshit here and I fucking ripped their ass a new one. It’s probably still sore to this day.

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        Now any time I say anything negative about crypto, about six of them jump out of the woodwork to give their big long spiel on “the useful use-cases for NFTs” which I just roll my eyes harder every fucking time over.

        This seems to correlate with the sudden rise in promotion of the Brave browser I’ve been seeing here.

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          Yeah I don’t trust anyone using that pedo browser. If I see that shit on their desktop they’re not getting a second date.

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    It has gotten worse and it will only continue to do so. There are people who are respectful and hold back their darkest impulses, but there are others who choose to hold those same features in high regard, as literal virtues in their eyes. Blocking hexbear and lemmygrad has helped my own peace of mind immensely, but you would not want to block lemmy.ml or lemmy.world or such so… here we are.

    I do not really see any permanent solution to this problem, short of eternal vigilance. That’s just nature though, e.g. viruses constantly evolve and seek new hosts, hence hosts that do not keep up die, there’s no way around needing to keep up defenses against such a tireless onslaught. Similarly for information vs. misinformation too, it seems:-(.

    It has also gotten much harder to have any discussion with even the tiniest hint of subtlety on the Fediverse - is Biden/Linux/socialism/religion good or bad? “Yes.” For some of us, knowing what will happen - the flood of toxic responses I mean - if we dare to speak up is enough to cause us to cringe enough that we would simply rather stay silent instead. If only the opposing side were like that too! But no, they elect not to hold their own tongues, even while expecting YOU to hold yours. That too seems just the nature of the universe.

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      People here realize that narratives have consequences and know we can’t just live in la-la land where everyone is happy all the time. I mean yeah you can do that but then don’t be surprised pikachu face when you find yourself in the company of neo-nazis who are doing the same.

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        Lolz you are hilarious - if I get called a derogatory term like “stupid”, and I don’t like it, then I am a literal, actual Nazi? :-P That really makes me curious… what if I DO like it:-P?

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      9 months ago

      if we dare to speak up is enough to cause us to cringe enough that we would simply rather stay silent instead.

      It’s a different kind of Chilling Effect. It reduces conversation, because it convinces some people to not become involved at all.

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        9 months ago

        Whereas conversations like this one with you has the opposite effect - thank you for your addition and the link:-).

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    When they are insulting should mean that they have no arguments… maybe they have issues on their life. Who knows, but it’s a waste of time to reply to them.

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    We can absolutely do better than reddit on this one. If someone is breaking rule 2 (be respectful), report that comment and we’ll get to it as soon as we can.

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      Are reports anonymous? I don’t want to report a user that breaks rules only for the offending user to be friends with an admin and get me kicked from a community as payback

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        Reports are not anonymous, but they also aren’t public. Only visible to admins and mods of that community.

        It’s a tradeoff, anonymous report abuse was a big problem on reddit that I didn’t want to replicate here. If the admins or mods aren’t trustworthy on your server, you should pry move to another one.

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          That can be a good thing, too, to find out if someone is abusing the report feature, as was common on Reddit when people didn’t like someone’s comment.

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      The problem is, most of the pro-socialist posts don’t get removed when I report them for rule 2. I’m certain there’s a bias here.

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        Being pro something you are against does not break the “be respectful” rule.

        You really shouldn’t go around trying to silence people with different opinions than you.

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        For the first time in a liberals life, your viewpoints are being the least bit challenged. Must be awful, we socialists can’t imagine what you’re going through.

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        Maybe you should take care to follow said rule yourself? Looking through your recent comments in this thread it seems more to me that you are going in hard with bad takes and get hurt from getting dunked at. The question is really: Do you consider yourself respectful when you use ignorance to spite leftists?