• Muyal_Hix@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Jesus Christ I swear Biden supporters are starting to get as annoying as Trump supporters.

    You can’t criticize anything about their dear leader ot they come out of the woodwork to defend him.

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      10 months ago

      Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).

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        10 months ago

        this like saying eating shit is a better option than starving. One is just slower, but it’s still going to kill you.

        Are you right that biden is better than trump? yes. Are you wrong in that, that is an argument for Biden? absolutely fucking wrong. that is an argument for-not-trump… of which there are hundreds of millions of people in the US that are both not-trump and eligible to president. there are at least “50 other democrats”, per Your-Dear-Leader-Himself that can absolutely beat trump.

        the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

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          10 months ago

          I mean so who’s better than biden at this stage? I wish there was but I can’t think of anyone

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            10 months ago

            then that is a failure of your imagination.

            There are numerous options, any one of which- with Biden’s support- prove to be a far more popular and viable candidate. or did you think “Blue no matter who” only applies to centrists? Warren, Klobechar, AOC, Buttigieg, Even bernie, Phillips. Newsom. Probably, any candidate more progressive than a stick in the mud would have a better chance than Biden winning.

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          the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

          Is he the Democrat candidate with the best chance of beating Trump, is the important question.

          Regarding the importance of name recognition and the low-information status of most of the electorate, that is a ‘sadly, yes’ moment.

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        10 months ago

        If these are the only two options in our current system

        1.) god help us

        2.) let’s tear down the system

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          Unless class conciousness forms in America tearing the system down would result in a mad max hell scape and probably the end of of the human race because of the acceleration to climate change.

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          10 months ago

          It’s the only two options in the system because the American people are not as left-wing as your average fucking Lemmy user.

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            10 months ago

            Even as someone far more right than the average lemmy user, an 80 year old and an almost 80 year old being the only two options is absurd.

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              Yeah. God help us. But tearing down the system, while temporarily satisfying as millions die, will not be the solution we want it to be. What emerges will have the exact same problem as long as it is democratic and the American electorate is not changed.