Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote for President Biden over former President Trump.
A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president. Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Overall, 71 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers said they would vote for Trump in 2024, while only 11 percent said they would vote for Biden.
“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC. “She does well with the people who define themselves as anti-Trump.”
Well that’s good news. Now we just gotta see how well she does tomorrow. Biden might actually win in 2024. I’ve been feeling so negative about it because most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up
Also, the weird truth is that the economy did better under both Obama and Biden than it did under trump, but the wingers don’t let facts get in the way of their talking points. I’ve been worried about Haley getting the nomination because I think she could beat Biden. I don’t think trump would. For me trump winning is scarier, but more unlikely.
Im scared of a Trump win but terrified of a Trump loss. What will happen if he loses a second general election? I would rather see Haley get the nomination because the Trumpers would write in Trump and Biden would win easily. I’m voting for Haley in my state’s primary lmao
Legit question from a non-American - are Repubs really likely to vote for a woman for president?
Not just Republicans. I know several people on both sides of the aisle who only voted for Trump the first time because they didn’t want a woman president.
A woman republican candidate will lose badly bc they would not.
most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up
That’s the thing about the collision between reality and politics though: the former doesn’t matter.
When I was in the military, they used to always say “Perception is reality.” I’m no philosophy major, but I always thought that was exceedingly stupid, especially for the military.
But the more I learn about the world, the more I’m just like…yeah, okay, if you want to be pragmatic, then perception is reality.
So, the fact that most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and attribute it to the president like idiots means everything politically. It’s Americans who are voting. And if they can proudly identify Canada on a map and proclaim it’s the U.S., then that’s what we’re stuck with.
Yeah, well said. I’ve given up trying to convince my MAGA mom that had Trump gotten a second term, inflation would still be high. I walked her through everything that happened and asked her what was it that Biden did that made inflation bad. It’s just crickets. They hear “Biden bad, inflation his fault” and that’s enough for them.
Until they can differentiate between a claim and a fact, we’re stuck with their alternative reality
They’re lying
I find Haleys positions pretty level headed compared to the MAGA type. If I were republican, I would probably do the same.
Yes, but that’s exactly why you’re not a Republican. You have reasonable, measured opinions on things.
This is scary because, if Trump finally ends up in prison or is otherwise somehow not the Republican nominee, Nikki Haley is as stupid and dangerous as the rest of the Republican leadership. If she has a better chance against Biden than Trump, we should hope Trump is the one on the ballot (and then subsequently rotting in prison after he loses).
A second Trump presidency isn’t the greatest threat to American democracy. Republicans are. Trump and his sycophantic cult are just the most notable symptom of the Republican disease. Until they either move on from their 21st century extremism or are obliterated as a party, Democrats need to win because these evil psychopaths cannot be allowed to govern.
We should never hope for Trump on the ballot. Even if that means Haley fuming it out with Uncle Joe. Trump should not be allowed to run. Period.
Why do you think Democrat leadership keeps saying things like ‘we need to best Trump at the polls’. They don’t want to take Trump off the ballot because they know it reduces their chances. They’re catering to a fascist so they can win an election. That was the 2016 strategy.
It’s because every Republican candidate is Trump with less make-up. They all share the same fascist platform.
You better believe they want Trump removed from the ballot, and there’s two outcomes why: The first and likely is that Trump wins nomination. On states where he’s not on the ballot, there will be people who do not vote at all and this affect downstream voting. The second is that Trump somehow loses nomination. There will indeed be people who write-in Trump, and while this is actually a worse outcome due to downstream voting being affected, this outcome would be largely unaffected by Trump’s removal or not. Primary voters are gonna write things in, and especially Republican ones that feel like the system is rigged.
3rd party 2024 and end the 2 party illusion of choice
