Any tips for a Ukrainian who is planning to move to Canada? Maybe cultural differences, food, weather, etc.

  • cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    It’s tough, but I hope you can make it work, because we love having you here!

    Big cities are where the good jobs are, but they’re also where all the people are, and not nearly enough housing or land area for all of them, so it basically quickly turns into an unaffordable nightmare unless you have generational wealth/inherited property, which of course you won’t. Unfortunately it seems this is largely where the default “Canadian immigrant experience” will put you, and it’s really not working for anyone as far as I can tell.

    I’d argue that you will do better to find yourself a small town to move to that’s more remote. Not necessarily somewhere far north or completely outside civilization (although there are many such places in Canada, and in many cases Canadian government will actually give you extra money if you live in these areas as they can be both extremely remote, extreme weather, and extreme cost of basic necessities) But you can find many small less urbanized areas throughout the country, some are farming communities, some are industry towns (lumber, pulp and paper mills, mining, etc) some are better connected and serviced than others, but generally speaking the further away you get from the major cities and capitals, the cheaper housing will be. Other stuff gets more expensive though, but housing is such a dominant cost of living problem right now that it’s still the main factor you’ll benefit from trying to minimize. Anywhere outside the major cities, jobs will probably suck, but there will be some jobs. They won’t be jobs that take advantage of any education you have, they will be simple jobs in hospitality, services, sales, business administration and other less skilled labor that don’t necessarily pay very well. Cost of living is much lower in more rural areas of Canada – depending on how you are willing to live. It can be a harder life, especially if you’re used to city life. If you can get some support in the community and are willing to sacrifice some conveniences I think it is probably one of the better and more cost effective ways to live for many people right now. But it’s not for everyone, and it may be especially tough for an immigrant as small communities can be insular and isolating. If you can find towns with a Ukrainian diaspora, that would be ideal, and there are already lots of them (and more every day!). Especially in the prairie provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba) which have long had a significant Ukrainian community well established.

    For jobs I’m really not sure what the outlook is for a Ukrainian immigrant. I know there’s a lot of bureaucracy and obstacles in getting education and skills recognized over here, which is really a shame. I seem to find a lot of Ukrainian people working in hotels and restaurants for example, because it requires no formal certifications or proof of anything to get such a job, however often these people have extensive education and skills. It’s a shame for everyone involved, but a job’s a job, and you need a job to pay the bills, so at least there’s something. If you can find a way into something like the trades or industry, the money is crazy good and people are desperate to hire right now, but again, the process for getting people trained and certified is long and probably very frustrating.

    I don’t know what you expectation of standard of living is like. I know Ukraine used to be quite a poor country overall, but I think it was quickly improving before the war, and like Canada, I think there was quite a significant variation between the relatively wealthier cities and the remote rural towns. I think you will find it overall is similar here, although the prices and scales will probably be much different.

    Wish you all the luck, and hope you have a great experience here.

  • AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago
    • Housing affordability is BAD, but if you avoid the major cities (Vancouver/Montreal/Toronto) it is not as bad
    • Many will point out our health care systems is all backed up especially after covid, but if you need urgent care it is there and will not bankrupt you like in the US.
    • Most of Canada is COLD in the winter, doing some googling the ONLY place in Canada as MILD as your weather is the west coast near Vancouver (expensive cost of living).
    • Canada is MASSIVE https://www.thetruesize.com/ All of Ukraine is about the size of one of our Provinces.
    • Canada has a lot of diversity, each Province has a bit of a different personality and mix of cultures.
    • Lots of open beautiful places to explore if you venture out.
    • Flying domestically across canada is quite expensive, again it is huge.
    • Population density is actually quite low over all, we have lots of open space.
  • Xavier@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    First, get to know as much as you can about Canada, its Provinces and Territories. Like you asked, you will get a pretty good overview of its culture, food, festivals, history, climate, geography, economy, demography, governments (federal/provincial/municipal).

    Secondly, get know the many generations of Ukrainian Canadians that live here throughout Canada. You may find long lost relatives or even old friends 😁 and then Canada won’t be much different from Ukraine, just more people of various culture, religion and walks of life, everyone chipping in trying to make a positive difference in each others lives (although Canada has it own assholes and criminals, they generally tend to not openly/bombastically flout the law).

    Work wise, I would recommend to focus on anything related to sustainable development, climate change adaptation and the tech sector as those are where all the investment are being thrown into (renewable energy sector, electric transportation and manufacturing chain, mineral resources exploitation, forestry and sustainable agribusinesses, etc.)

    Hopefully, my Canadian 2 cents helps. 😆

  • phanto@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Welcome!

    This is my take: most people are decent. There are bad eggs, but generally, they got your back. If you’re trying to get settled, the libraries are a good place for help. Free wifi, books, games, that sort of thing. Our local library helps with getting paperwork sorted and resumes written, so, yeah.

    So glad you’re coming here!

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      9 months ago

      Can I actually go to a library and ask for some help with the resume? I’ve heard that it’s difficult applying for jobs because lots of CVs are automatically sorted out. Does having social media accounts help finding a job? I’ve abandoned/deleted fb/Instagram, etc long time ago, and my wife only has some Chinese analogs.

      Thanks for the response, and for being so welcoming.

      • Epilektoi_Hoplitai@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        I know here in BC the Labour ministry has job centres called “WorkBC” that not only help with resumes and job searches, but actually have dedicated classes specifically for newcomers from Ukraine.

        P.S. Welcome! We’re glad to have you, and I hope everything works out without too much trouble :)

      • skankhunt42@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        I’ve always asked friends and family for help with my résumé but a library or a community centre will definitely be able to either help or point you in the right direction. Worst case you can post again here with the personal information changed or blacked out.

        Welcome to Canada! I’m sorry for how things are going there and I hope you enjoy your time here!

      • gony@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        I’m a hiring manager.

        Most employers will do a quick social media snoop of applicants they are interested in, but FB and instagram are not important if you don’t have them. Don’t feel pressured to go back to those cesspools. Many managers (not me, but it feels like most others) like to look at a LinkedIn profile, but it’s probably not a very big deal since you won’t have any Canadian connections yet.

        Libraries are a great resource like phanto mentioned, and would be a good place to ask for help with resumes as well.

        Roughly where in Canada are you moving? There are a lot of places with big Ukrainian communities.

  • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Depends on where in canada you are going. It’s a huge place. Each province ia very different from the others

    Here is some general information that applies almost everywhere: Food: expensive. Almost all the grocery stores are owned by only 3 companies, so they dont really compete to have good prices Telecom: Almost all the internet/mobile providers are owned by only 3 companies, so they dont really compete to have good prices Health care: is really bad everywhere. Hospitals are all over capacity. People have problems finding a family doctor

    Despite all the above problems, it’s overall a good place to live

    If you can be more specific about where you are moving to, it would help. I’m sure we can give you some good things to lool forward to instead of all the negative stuff above

    Welcome!

    • RandomName65@lemmy.caOP
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      9 months ago

      Thanks for the response. I’ve heard about the negatives that you’re talking about, as those seem to be all over internet. To be honest it does scare me a bit. I’m not sure on where I’d like to go. I’d love to go somewhere like Vancouver or Toronto, so my Chinese wife can have easier time in the foreign country, but the prices do scare me. I’d be happy to hear any recommendations. Thanks again

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        Avoid those two cities.

        For a Chinese wife, the west coast is going to be better due to a higher Asian population. More exposure tends to mean better acceptance.

        Somewhere on Vancouver island that’s not in or near Victoria may work. Consider Nanaimo, Courtenay, Campbell River, or smaller places like Port Alberni or Ladysmith maybe. They’re not cheap, but they’re still cheaper than the two big cities and there are still many normal jobs depending on your skills.

        Good luck and welcome to Canada.