Just watched the Boy Boy video on George Bush’s Masterclass, and they made me think about which U.S. President was actually worse.

  • Nonameuser678@aussie.zone
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    8 months ago

    Not an American but Trump was far more embarrassing to your international reputation than Bush. They’re both 2 of the worst presidents you’ve ever had but Trump is a whole different level of shitty. He’s like fascist shitty, whereas Bush was neo-con shitty.

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      8 months ago

      He’s like fascist shitty, whereas Bush was neo-con shitty.

      Corporate would like you to find the difference between these two pictures.

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      8 months ago

      Way to downplay warcrimes and actual wars 👏👏👏

      Nobody who understands what Bush did thinks Trump is worse.

      Edit: ITT- People justifying senseless wars

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        8 months ago

        No one is downplaying what Bush did, we’re accentuating how excruciatingly bad Trump’s actions were. See you comprehend that Bush’s crimes were horrible, you’re simply incapable of understanding that Trump’s were much, much worse.

        Many executives get their countries embroiled in foreign conflicts. Few actively attempt to subvert their own government upon their dismissal; they literally are the worst of the worst, and your inability to fathom this is either feigned or revealing.

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    8 months ago

    I feel like while bush was a much worse president then most people realize, with some of his policies and things like the patriot act still in effect and gumming up the works, trump did more damage in erroding the facade of democracy and empowering fanatics

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      8 months ago

      Which is a good thing. Liberals pretending Bush wasn’t so bad, is what is going to allow fascism to win.

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    8 months ago

    If Trump leads to the end of America and it’s sham democracy, he will be the greatest president the world has ever had. But liberals can’t stand to call America the bad guy.

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    8 months ago

    Speaking as a Canadian, the Bush presidency was certainly wince-inducing. I was genuinely surprised he got re-elected after that clusterfuck of a first term. By the end of the 2nd, I was fairly convinced the best days of America were behind it.

    But the difference between him and Trump is the wounds were more self-inflicted on the country with Bush. Still not great for Canada, whose fortunes rise and fall on what happens on the other side of the border.

    But Trump had a genuine animosity for freedom-loving, democracy-respecting American allies and a love for oppressive dictatorships. He tore up trade agreements, levelled tariffs, etc. against Canada and Europe while advancing diplomacy in person in the likes of North Korea.

    And on a more social level, he poisoned public discourse and stoked right-wing authoritarianism all over the world. I have family members I can’t talk to anymore. And the lunatic fringe came out of the woodwork under his term. We even had a mosque shooter here in Canada who was quite candid about Trump being his inspiration.

    Within the US, Americans hate Americans with a passion. What a mess. Another civil war is not out of the question. As such, I am coming down on Trump being far, far worse.

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      8 months ago

      I think all those things are good. Trump didn’t cause any of those, he exposed them to naive liberals like you.