I am one of the admins of Beehaw and I’m trying to get some feedback on our potential move.

Let’s start out with a little Beehaw history before judgements are passed, please.

A handful of us were beta testing Tildes when we decided to have discussions on a Discord server.

We decided that our ‘Northern Star’ or guiding principle would culminate as ‘Be Nice’ with purposefully vague/flexible interpretations. Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.

We talked for a little over a year and some of our members became impatient. Then someone stepped in to suggest a couple of platforms that we could consider getting started with.

One of those platforms was Lemmy. None of us knew, at that time, anything about ActivityPub.

During the Reddit exodus (surrounding the API outcry and blackout), our instance exploded. We were, initially, crippled by the mass amounts of users seeking refuge.

Thankfully, someone stepped in and volunteered hundreds of hours of work to stabilize our instance and refine it further.

After many hours of talks, it became clear to us that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

  • azuth@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    6 months ago

    You should never have been on lemmy according to your stated goals of a ‘safe’ closed community. Your actions during the reddit exodus while you were still a big part of the lemmyverse (especially regarding communities) certainly did not do the rest of lemmy any good. Not that I think you care.

    It’s better for lemmy if you leave, it’s better for your goals to leave so just do it.

  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I think the fediverse would be better off without Beehaw, so yeah, get off Lemmy and go build your own platform by yourself. I wish you the absolute best of luck, and thank you in advance for taking all the worst kind of people off the fediverse with you.

  • jack@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Beehaw has already chosen not to be a part of the fediverse. There’s no real purpose in asking us; only you can resolve Beehaw’s identity crisis.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Is Beehaw even really in the fediverse when you don’t federate with almost anyone?

    lol, your wannabe reddit-logo sunk as soon as it became apparent Reddit wasn’t going anywhere.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Edit: I just realized this was blahaj, not beehaw. I can’t keep none of this stuff straight.

      That was lemmy.world. Beehaw was federated for a while but then if I remember right kept saying we’re not actually trans/gay friendly because we’re too tankie. Then they kept insulting one of our admins, who is a trans woman herself. Like they’d say we’re faking how queer we are. Then it turns out they have a really bad chaser problem and a bunch of our trans posters kept getting death threats or weird stalkers from over there. Also they’re so anti-tankie they occasionally swerve into outright saying reactionary stuff. They also like saying slurs.

      There was an attempt at damage control, then I think we decided to cut them off. Do I have all of that right? I really have problems remembering my Hexbearian lore, I’m sorry. We need a Bible

      • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Yup, that’s all blahaj. Beehaw was the one that pre-emptively-as-a-last-resort defederated Hexbear before we had even turned on federation at all

  • CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I don’t think you guys cared when you defederated from the rest of the fediverse and turned up your nose at everyone else. I’m not sure why you care now. You guys go and do your thing, but I don’t think you’re very relevant to the fediverse.

    You speak very vaguely, and I don’t think you’re being fully honest with your reasoning, but by this point, I don’t think it really matters.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    6 months ago

    i’ve enjoyed the beehaw peeps, but im certainly not going to make an account. the instance would be missed.

    i am moving away from walled gardens, not towards them.

  • apotheotic(she/they)@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I replied to another user, but I’m sharing it in a main reply to add my voice to the base level comments.

    I want a safe place to be, while looking out into a wider sea of content (albeit through the filter of Beehaw’s defederation, which I really appreciate). When the trolls and the assholes get too much, I like to be able to retreat back to just Local feed setting and be safe again. If beehaw was to be a separate platform, I’d lose that.

    Beehaw is a shining beacon in an ocean of content, good and bad. I’d love that beacon to remain, so more people can find safety here if they need it.

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    the only thing of substance are links to your websites and discord

    Ah okay so this is what this is about. Very creative way to peddle your shit.