• Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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      11 months ago

      IRC is only text chat, Discord does a ton of other things on top.

      Personally I’ve been on the internet for the last… 27 years or so? I’ve used ICQ, Teamspeak, Skype, IRC, Mumble, Discord, Teams, … (Probably forgot a few).

      I never really liked IRC, yes, it’s private servers which is nice, yes you can be relatively anonymous, but the channels were always a mess. Either too many people spamming so you can’t follow a single conversation, or for most channels you had 40 people idling and never responding, so it felt like a ghost town.

      Just in my personal experience Discord works a lot better and is far more convenient. But yeah, not much privacy there obviously (though everything you said in IRC was often saved away by a bot, so either way whatever you said was out there).

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      11 months ago

      Amen. Guess it’s the curse of the unknowing youth. They grow up with this bullcrap. I hate discord so much. “oh buy nitro, have stupid stickers!” ugh.

      I really really really miss IRC. What was wrong with it? Why did it die? Did we all die?

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        11 months ago

        It is alive and well, never died. Many project still use it for communication, support…

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          11 months ago

          I know, there’re even gopher, Finger and BBSs still around. But being around isn’t really the same as alive. Except technically.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve lost a lot of my rose tint for discord, right around the arbitration clause thing, but I can’t deny that it’s convenient. Chat, streaming to friends, popping up a new server for whatever project or group, VC for playing games together. There’s platforms that do all of these things better, but few that do all of them decently well.

      Of course, it’s a privacy nightmare and I stick to IRC for anything I wouldn’t feel comfortable having linked to my identity, but I wouldn’t call people stupid for using it.

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          11 months ago

          Closed source software without end to end encryption and has access to all chats, voice and video calls. How can it not be a privacy nightmare. You have no idea what they collect and what they don’t.

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            11 months ago

            Don’t they claim that they can’t access your chat logs unless they get like reports and stuff?

            Edit: This question needs an answer, not a downvote

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              11 months ago

              I doubt that. If you do a gdpr request for your data, you’ll see how much they log about your activities. Obviously chats and VC activity, but also all the timestamps of what you play, session data over all time, etc.

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          11 months ago

          Or maybe… How is discord any worse of a privacy nightmare than IRC? I love me some IRC, but it ain’t exactly a bastion of secrecy.

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            11 months ago

            IRC clients don’t have loads of telemetry like Discord does. And IRC is a protocol instead of a platform, so there isn’t a single set of servers hosting and logging ALL conversations.

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        11 months ago

        Mostly I think its fine for all that.

        But there’s a special circle of hell for projects that rely on it for “documentation”.

        I get the temptation, I really do. But once you’re taking money or have more than a couple people involved and semi-organized you really need at least a small wiki/git-hub landing page with the basics.

        I know documentation is a separate skillset and a lot of work in its own right but projects can also stagnate and die because there isn’t any.

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          11 months ago

          Oh 1000% agree, having a discord for support is nice and all, but using it as a crutch in place of good documentation is a sin worthy of eternal damnation.

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            11 months ago

            Heck, even support is a bit of a pain since projects also like to use it as their issue tracker and want you to search for your issue before posting (which it’s awful for). GitHub is free or at least cheap depending on what you need and is way more searchable, as well as giving a place for wiki and a basic website

            Direct chat support, discord is fine, but beyond that, please use something actually designed for it

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      It’s wild how a good deal of decentralization and FOSS focused communities insist on having Discord be their primary center for community. Worst one is privacy focused communities…

      I can’t say that bridging them to matrix was a foolproof endeavor though