Will we all be fucked or is there a Linus 2?

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    1 year ago

    We will switch to GNU/Hurd.

    Then we will plug a USB device and remember that Hurd doesn’t support that yet.

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    There shouldn’t be another Linus. The model of a single maintainer holding so much importance is fundamentally flawed, especially for a project with the size and importance of Linux. Responsibilities and decision making should be distributed among stakeholders and volunteers. It will take time to rebuild around that sort of structure.

    I’ve also heard tell that the linux-kernel mailing list has become extremely toxic, especially to newcomers. A professor that I have a lot of respect for has stopped teaching his kernel drivers course because one of his students received death threats related to her involvement. If a change in the tenor doesn’t happen, less and less of the fresh blood that Linux needs will join.

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    Linus is getting old and its time to pick his replacement.

    And its you! Congratulations! I hope your ready

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      The far future: A man sits at a table, staring at a floating hologram display. He watches as an indecipherable block of alphanumeric characters wiggles and splits into two segments. He nods slowly.

      He takes a breath and closes his eyes, broadcasting a message to everyone on duty that day.

      “Merge the request. Tell Linus#3418 that Wayland is now the default display manager.”

    • duncesplayed@lemmy.one
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      1 year ago

      Hm, he and his wife are getting on in years. If they want a son, they should probably get on that right away.

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    A number of candidates will create their own forks and there will be a long Game of Thrones style war between different factions. After couple of weeks each distro will choose the fork they will make the default one and people will split into warring factions. After that we will enter a nuclear winter style period lasting couple of years during which 90% of post on Lemmy will be just shitposting the rival forks. After a decade or two of backstabbing, dirty politics and other drama new dictator will be selected and all will be back to normal.

  • vhalragnarok@linux.community
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    1 year ago

    There will not be a Linus 2, but rather there will be a peaceful transfer of “power”.

    Linus is not the Benevolent Dictator For Life of the Linux Kernel.

    Linus has already stepped away from developing the Kernel. He did this after an incident to work on his professionalism & mannerisms towards people. Kernel development did not stop. Linus does not approve and merge every patch into the Kernel.

    Rather it is more likely that the Lead Maintainer/Developer changes to Greg Kroah-Hartmon, and the project does not skip a beat.

    Rest assured with something as important as the Linux Kernel: development will keep going.

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    1 year ago

    The top secret classified, for your eyes only papers will finally be revealed and we will find out that…
    we have all been using BETAMAX this whole time, not Linux. O_o

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor is a thing that any GOOD project or IT department considers. How many of your staff can you afford to lose if they all happen to be travelling in the same bus, on their way to eat at the same place for lunch when an asteroid inevitably punches through said bus and/or diner.

    ‘Hit by an asteroid’ is a little unrealistic. Sentenced to prison for 15 to Life has happened in the Open Source community at least once before. The project I linked to had a Bus Factor of about one. It’s now ‘old code using outdated APIs’ and is considered obsolete.

    I’ve personally seen legal and criminal issues for a single individual cripple IT departments before, meaning their bus factor was also way too low. I’ve been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems. Natural disaster, such as hurricanes, wildfires, and floods are very serious existential threats to even the largest of organizations.

    Since Linux seems to be a good project, I can’t imagine that the discussion hasn’t been had, in public or in private. Millions of individuals and dozens upon dozens of big corporations depend on Linux, Open source and otherwise. If the bus comes for core maintainers or project leaders we have at least SOME backup.

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        “I’ll Become the Strongest Adventurer in the Other World with My Maximum Level Open Source Operating System Development Skills.”

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            “Brave Hero from Finland, you’ve been struck by a bus and are going to reincarnate into–”

            “No I wasn’t. That bus CHASED ME DOWN two alleys, over a fire hydrant, into, and out of a Starbucks. It did NOT hit me. You just summoned me here.”

            “Err… anyway, this world needs a hero to–”

            “Write hardware drivers? A kernel module? Some inline assembly?”

            "Err… the demon lord… er… "

            “DID YOU EVEN MAIL THE LIST? Hah… Okay. Does this world have logic gates of any kind? I need to get this knocked out as soon as possible. I’ve got the entirety of the bcachefs patchset to review before 6.7 is in release.”

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    Nothing. Linus doesn’t personally do coding on the kernel, he has a team who do that and he oversees it and makes the hard decisions.

    There are others who will take his place and the work will continue.

    If somehow the entire kernel team shut down, Google, Samsung or some other large corporation would take it over and continue development because at this point many, many, many servers, phones, smart devices, iot, and other appliances rely on the Linux kernel to function.

    It simply cannot be left to die.

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      “Today here at Microsoft we are celebrating the legacy of the late Linus Torvalds by releasing a new kernel, re-written entirely in Golang using Copilot. No GPL code was touched, merely re-written, and we will offer ISOs to the coding community for free! Stay tuned for more updates, as we will be exclusively developing on this kernel going forward! This is a great day for open source!”