Lots of things are “basically Debian” (Ubuntu, Mint, etc.). Similarly, lots of things are “basically Fedora” (Red Hat, CentOS, etc.). But Fedora and Debian are themselves separate base branches of the Linux distro family multitree and thus couldn’t be further apart!
Ubuntu is a derivative distro. Mint is a derivative of a derivative.
Fedora is “basically Debian” (I should have said similar to Debian) in the sense that they’re both original, community-maintained distros, use similar package managers, and require a similar level of skill.
I’m just used to thinking of Fedora and Debian as the two major different kinds of Linux (with smaller distro families like Slackware and Gentoo being kinda off to the side). I mean, yeah, they’re both general-purpose and community-maintained, but that applies to most distros. Also, if apt and yum are similar, then so is every other package manager. They don’t even use the same package format, after all.
I get what you’re saying, but I just don’t categorize distros that way.
I’m just used to thinking of Fedora and Debian as the two major different kinds of Linux (with smaller distro families like Slackware and Gentoo being kinda off to the side).
It was the fact that they used RPMs that made me think they were a Red Hat derivative. I didn’t care for Red Hat (I ran Slackware back then, switching to Debian around Hamm) so I never gave them a chance. Pity.
I would say it’s more that we kind of don’t know where it belongs in the family tree. There are two big families (Debian, Fedora), three small families (Slackware, Gentoo, Arch), a bunch of singletons . . . and OpenSUSE, which could belong to either the Fedora or the Slackware family depending on the criteria applied.
If you want newer packages, use backports or run Debian Testing. I used testing on servers for probably 10 years without issues. I don’t want to spend as much time dealing with the occasional breakages these days though, so I’m running stable everywhere.
For what it’s worth, MX Linux is the only distro that runs on netbooks that only support 32Bit UEFI and ships the required non-free firmware.
Fedora is
basicallysimilar to Debian but for desktop users who want newer packages and don’t mind some bugs.ಠ_ಠ
Lots of things are “basically Debian” (Ubuntu, Mint, etc.). Similarly, lots of things are “basically Fedora” (Red Hat, CentOS, etc.). But Fedora and Debian are themselves separate base branches of the Linux distro family multitree and thus couldn’t be further apart!
Ubuntu is a derivative distro. Mint is a derivative of a derivative.
Fedora is “basically Debian” (I should have said similar to Debian) in the sense that they’re both original, community-maintained distros, use similar package managers, and require a similar level of skill.
Not if you install the debian base version instead of the ubuntu based one.
I’m just used to thinking of Fedora and Debian as the two major different kinds of Linux (with smaller distro families like Slackware and Gentoo being kinda off to the side). I mean, yeah, they’re both general-purpose and community-maintained, but that applies to most distros. Also, if apt and yum are similar, then so is every other package manager. They don’t even use the same package format, after all.
I get what you’re saying, but I just don’t categorize distros that way.
Everyone always forgets about OpenSUSE :(
That is a shame as Tumbleweed is awesome!
It never caught on in the states.
IIRC it was originally based on Red Hat (back when Red Hat Linux was a thing), wasn’t it?
Originally, it started as Slackware translated to German.
So it did. That’s interesting.
It was the fact that they used RPMs that made me think they were a Red Hat derivative. I didn’t care for Red Hat (I ran Slackware back then, switching to Debian around Hamm) so I never gave them a chance. Pity.
I would say it’s more that we kind of don’t know where it belongs in the family tree. There are two big families (Debian, Fedora), three small families (Slackware, Gentoo, Arch), a bunch of singletons . . . and OpenSUSE, which could belong to either the Fedora or the Slackware family depending on the criteria applied.
Debian is basically Debian. DX
If you want newer packages, use backports or run Debian Testing. I used testing on servers for probably 10 years without issues. I don’t want to spend as much time dealing with the occasional breakages these days though, so I’m running stable everywhere.
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