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      1. Finding Dory: Has a lesbian couple on screen for 3 seconds. Was an ENORMOUS deal at the time. Disney marketed it.
      2. Beauty and the Beast (2017 Live Action): Disney specifically marketed how Josh Gads character was their first gay character. They also marketed an “exclusive gay moment”. That moment was him dancing with another man in a group scene for like 2 seconds.
      3. Thor Ragnarok: Wasn’t announced until Love and Thunder but Valkyrie is bisexual.
      4. Avengers Endgame: Also touted as a “big moment” and the first gay character in the MCU. During the opening grief counseling session that Cap America runs, one dude is talking about how he went on a date with another man. Here’s there for a maximum of 20 seconds.
      5. Toy Story 4: You can see a lesbian couple for like 1-3 seconds.
      6. Rise of Skywalker: Also touted as a huge moment for Star Wars, Disney started talking about how it was the first lesbian couple. At the end of the movie there’s a 1 second shot of two women kissing. Disney marketed it as first on screen same sex kiss.
      7. **Onward:**The cyclops cop is a lesbian. There’s a single line where she says her girlfriend’s daughter did something.
      8. Jungle Cruise: Disney said that Jack MacGregor was their first “major gay character”. There is a single line in the film hinting towards his sexuality. Dwayne Johnsons character asks why he never got married and Jack says “my interests lie elsewhere”. That’s it. Apparently that counts for being gay.
      9. Eternals: Disney touted that one as being the ‘First Gay Superhero’. He’s not a major character or anything but you do see a scene with him and his husband/son.
      10. Cruella: Also marketed by Disney as being their ‘first major gay character’ despite them claiming that twice for Beauty and the Beast and for Jungle Cruise. In this movie, the gay character is the hyper flamboyant, fashion loving villain.
      11. High School Musical The Series: A Disney+ show. They marketed that one for the ‘First Gay Disney Love Song’.
      12. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: America Chavez is a lesbian and the movie was marketed for having the ‘First Gay Superhero’, apparently ignoring Eternals from previously.
      13. Lightyear: ‘First Pixar Same-sex Kiss in a Pixar movie’ was claimed for this one. However it was only put back into the movie after news broke that Disney was donating to anti-gay politicians and that they constantly cut LGBTQ content behind the scenes they stuck this scene in. Then it came out that this scene too was originally cut. Shocker.
      14. Ms. Marvel: Another Disney+ show. They have a same-sex teenage lesbian couple.
      15. Strange World: The thing in the meme. First Gay Teenage character.
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        ABC is owned by Disney. ABC owns Scrubs. Therefore the first gay love song from Disney is “Guy Love” sung by JD and Turk and I will die on this hill.

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        The characters being ancillary and easily edited out/cut is by design so they can still use the movies in foreign markets that are hostile to lgbt rights

        If the gay character is only identified as gay in one scene where they say “I’m gay” or kiss for 10 seconds you can just cut that part out and still screen it in Saudi Arabia. Disney doesn’t actually give a shit about lgbt issues, they give a shit about what will sell

        Thus a prominent main character who is gay or a movie about a character coming to terms with queer identity is far less likely because that basically means they instantly lose out on much of the lucrative international market

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        At the end of the movie there’s a 1 second shot of two women kissing.

        LOL. First I heard of this. I must’ve blinked and missed it.

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          It is literally 1 or 2 seconds. It’s an extremely quick flash that’s in the background. Not even given focus from what I remember, although I could be wrong on that. It was just so forgettable.

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        sigh

        Mission hill, a show you’ve likely never heard of, back in 1999 had two characters named Gus and Wally. They were the upstairs neighboors of the main cast though Gus and Wally did have their own episode (the show only ran for 1 season and had 13 episodes) as well as having some side plots in other episodes. Now the very first scene they’re in they are making out.

        Let me repeat that, back in fucking 1999 there was an openly gay couple in an animated show who were functionally main characters. They weren’t the perfect couple, they acted like your old married coupke, but the show never once made them being gay a joke, a bad thing, or anything of the sort. They were treated respectfully as flawed humans who loved each other for the show’s entire run.

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          The episode where Gus comes back from work with a knife stuck in his head and won’t go to the doctor and tries to just act like everything is normal still makes me die laughing, because my (also gay) husband is the same way.

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        Wow thanks didn’t think there was that many “first gay characters” 😂

        I forgot about 1 though I remember hearing about that.

        Seems like Disney can’t make up their minds and are trying to make the “perfect” gay character.

        They should just do this:

        “This is the first gay character”

        “This is the first gay character V2”

        “This is the first gay character V3”

        Etc

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        Holy fuck that is pathetic. Not quite as pathetic as the people crying about “forced diversity” tho.

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        I saw some of these movies but the only one that actually contains a somewhat important gay character thats actually gay is eternals.

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      In onwards there is a police woman/ogre who talks about her girlfriend. I have heard there is queer representation in the movie luca but I did not watch it

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      Looking back at the list of Disney movies… there actually were none. Unless you count Cuzco.

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        Well definitely limiting if you go specifically gay teen.

        But they made a somewhat big deal about having a Gay Ellen DeGeneres, in finding Dory but didn’t specifically push that the character was gonna show gay representation.

        But man they really pushed the narrative that they would have an openly gay character in the live action Beauty & the Best movie which ended up being a 15 seconds site gag about cross dressing and dancing… so that was dumb.

        Then they bragged about having gay representation in an Avengers movie which ended up being an unnamed character saying he dated a guy once in a blink and you miss it sad scene at the top of the movie… and Marvel is Disney.

        Then I remember them bragging about gay representation in Onward but I actually don’t remember there being any like at all. Seriously, they talked about how they would include representing everyone and then the movie was a mess of just fairytale knockoff representation everywhere and I can point out practically no specifics.

        Let’s see then they made a bunch of live action stuff that actually had real gay representation but eternals sucked and cruella it’s definitely just a side character but hey whatever.

        Then they bragged about light-year I think which I didn’t watch so who knows how good that was.

        And that brings us to “the first openly gay character” which was the only advertising point for this movie I saw after a fantastic trailer giving such a great 1930s vibe and nothing else.

        So yeah I guess that’s practically none of you consider how pathetic the early attempts were nothing.