• Gamey@feddit.rocks
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    1 year ago

    If your country dose a lot of stupid shit people will make memes about it, you dumb American!

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      1 year ago

      The US is a cultural hegemon so it is often picked on. There are tons of idiotic peoole and cultural practices here in Spain. But the rest of the world isn’t really aware… I mean I don’t blame them. One cannot keep up with everything.

      But believe me, stupidity and insular thinking is just as endemic here as it is in the States. It just annoys me when “enlightened” Americans habitually paint other Americans as somehow dumber than dumb people elsewhere.

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        1 year ago

        America is leading the chart of the western world in terms of stupidity rn if you ask me and it’s definitely easy to be one of the enlighned over there (just don’t try to oppress others) but compared to other parts of the population I definitely prefer them!

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          1 year ago

          I’m an American who has lived in Spain for the past 11 years. I’ve grown up in the States, worked in the States as a young person, still visit frequently, but my professional, personal, and cultural life has not been primarily there for some time.

          I am telling you, both cultures have their dumb preoccupations, their misconceptions, and their morons.

          The idea of “America is so bad, Americans are so dumb” is exactly the same ideology as American exceptionalism. It is just as wrong.

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            1 year ago

            That’s not what I try to say, America is simply first rn and similar groups all over the western world adopt it because of that, it’s not a secret that the western world started to move to the right again in recent times and that leads to a lot of shit if you ask me which definitely isn’t limited to America but currently they are simply the first to do certain really bad tgings!

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              1 year ago

              As I said, America is a cultural hegemony at the moment. It does export a lot of its culture, but far from all of it’s culture.

              I think the direction the world is moving is a bit of a mixed bag. With LGBT stuff, it is moving far to the left very quickly. With things like workers rights it has stagnated or moved rightwards somewhat. It’s true that the Western world has seen the emergence of the alt-right in the past decade. But there is an alt-left or far left that has also been gaining in prominence. Generally just deviation from the political center in both directions.

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                1 year ago

                Judiging from the culture war the alt-right started to adopt in europe and other global leader changes (E.g. India) in the past few years I highly disagree, there is more accaptance in the general population but over all there are more and more countries LGBTQ people aren’t welcome in or have to flee from and the pure hate appears even here in Austria and in our neighbor countries. Trump of all people put it very well, five years ago his audiance didn’t even know what trans is and now they get more excited about it than about tax cuts. I do agree that the world generally moves towards neo liberal ideas rouggly since the early 2000s and that workers right are at risk too, that’s just not a very new development, stuff like that simply gains visibility during a crisis.

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                  1 year ago

                  Yeah, no. The Middle East, for example, is heading leftwards by leaps and bounds. It just seems slow from the standpoint of a single human lifetime. Remember, they were, with a few exceptions, warring desert bands on horses only a bit over 100 years ago. Not saying there aren’t exceptions (Iran, which, is sort of Middle-East-adjacent, would be an example).

                  The same trend is true all over the world. The thing is people get too emotional that they lose sight of secular trends for the ups and down of individual months and years. Just compare the culture now to 30 or 40 years ago. It very well might be a good strategy in getting what they want, it might even be necessary to keep cultural momentum going in the direction they want it to go, so, in that sense, it might be necessary. Seeing the truth is not necessarily a “good” or even advantageous thing.

                  But this attitude doesn’t reflect reality.