• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      They view the civilian goverment as above them at all times through all means, it’s very serious military doctorine to always be guided by the civilian goverment. How that plays out with a fascist in charge who wants to violate the constitution, who is clearly using legalism to order blatantly illegal actions already, it’s not clear. But in my opinion the leadership of the military will hold their nose and do whatever they are told and the enlisted will largely enjoy that.

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      I for one am shocked that the CIA is not standing up for the democratic values it’s so well known for upholding.

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    The last president to do a mass firing at the CIA was Carter. Hopefully this turns out just as well for Trump.

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    If I was a Five Eyes nation, I’d be looking long and hard at reducing head count…or at least changing the name to “Four Eyes and an Asshole”

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    Of all the agencies that I thought would capitulate quickly, I’ve got to admit I’m a bit shocked by this one.

    At the same time, I’m sure this is not the whole story.

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      Yeah, they killed Kennedy over a lot less, and this time they’re all at risk of losing their jobs and they’re just going to shrug it off?

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        I think it’s not that far fetched to presume the CIA has major political power within the US, more than the EPA at least. If someone, they know how to assassinate a president or a billionaire and make it look like an accident.

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            He’s eroding the US’ capability to coup and extract wealth from other countries. Trump is squandering all the power they built up on posturing and bullshit.

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                Reducing CIA headcount for example. But also, fracturing US alliances, stopping USAID, removing the US from international agreements that it could use as diplomatic soft power leverage, and just being a general jackass.

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                  Reducing CIA headcount

                  So the reason they wouldn’t take buyouts is because they were offered?

                  But also, fracturing US alliances, stopping USAID, removing the US from international agreements that it could use as diplomatic soft power leverage, and just being a general jackass.

                  “General jackassery” is not going to cause the CIA to assassinate a president. The CIA are generally jackasses lol. Fracturing alliances, I’m not sure that the CIA cares and I’m not sure how much of an effect his shenanigans will actually have in the long term. Some members of the CIA might prefer if he didn’t withdraw from international agreements, but in the grand scheme of things, I imagine it’s pretty small potatoes to them. The CIA certainly has the power to slap a president that gets out of line, but it’s not as if they micromanage every decision. Is any of that really enough to make it “shocking” that they’re cooperating?

                  If Trump’s really kneecapping the CIA that badly, I guess it’s the one good thing he’s done. More realistically, I assume he’s greenlighting them on all sorts of horrible shit behind closed doors and couldn’t be happier with him.

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      Well it is the CIA, it is plausible they’re just playing the game to stay on Trump’s good side. Maybe they ‘buyout’ a Joe and ‘rehire’ a Joey that just so happens to know everything Joe did, but ‘adores’ Trump for reasons

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        My first thought was: everyone in the CIA “retires” and gets “consulting” gigs with shell companies nobody has heard of.

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          Yeah, but who are those shell companies working for? A big selling point in the general buyouts is, “we want people out of govt service and in the private sector where they can do thier best work!”

          I’m thinking we don’t want a bunch of freelance spies contracting to the highest bidder

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      the TLAs are the feds standing in the emperor’s and lord diaper’s way the most. justice is locked-down, as is enough of the courts; half of congress is in a daze and the moron majority is eating the orange poo; but the TLAs have off-the-book ops and funding to do ‘things’.

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    His aide, according to the WSJ, said Trump’s CIA will have a greater focus on the Western Hemisphere, targeting countries not traditionally considered adversaries of the United States.

    literally making our closest neighbors into enemies so he can be buddies with Putin and Kim