• Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    I’m sure all we need is enough class consciousness and gumption so our direct action can stop the fascist regime from implementing imperialism.

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    American here:

    I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

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      The only problem with accelerationism, is that sometimes it accelerates in a direction we didn’t expect or want.

      It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.

      Best case, we depose a wanna-be despot because things go to shit.

      More likely case: we get both concentration camps AND a dictator.

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        It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.

        grade A cope

        this is some sector C level copium right here

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
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          I don’t think you know what that word means, but it’s okay, even if you’re illiterate that just puts you in the lower 25-fucking-percentile in the nation.

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            that’s unfortunate for you, since i am probably more educated than half the people on this site.

            Including you, call me when the NWO doesn’t take over the government and the US just collapses (or doesn’t, which is much more likely)

            • ameancow@lemmy.world
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              I genuinely have no idea what you’re babbling about mister “I’m smarter than half the people here” big shot super important dude.

              It’s wild how the people who are most eager to profess their own intellect are always the ones who can’t communicate worth shit and are completely ruled by reactionary responses and surging emotions. Again, it’s ok. You fit right in with most American median voters. Pull up a chair and take a number. All the numbers are #1 so you feel important and special just like everyone else.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      the unfortunate thing here, is that the US and the USD is so integral to global trade, that we would probably experience a global economic downturn similar to that of the great depression.

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      As a Canadian, it really really sucks that we have to hurt our friends to help them, or you’ll hurt us all worse. It really sucks that you, personally, had to say those things too, but it’s also brave, and makes me hopeful that we can get through this.

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        Another Canadian with the same sentiment.

        I feel like the sane world needs to make a global Alliance where if America tarriffs any country in the membership, everyone else responds with similar tarriffs.

        America needs to learn that it isn’t alone in the world and it can’t survive in its current state without friends.

        Poor Columbia having to give in to America’s demands over coffee, if they had an alliance with other countries maybe they could have said fuck you Trump.

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          German here, I stand with the same statement the from the guy above me that referred to the guy more above.

          Anyways - In the first tariff “war” trump unleashed in after 2016 we tried to tariff stuff from the US, but since we don’t import a lot of things from the US, we only had tariffs on Whisky and Jeans (I’m not even joking, this happened).

    • Peck@lemmy.world
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      Translation: I don’t want to to go or of my comfort zone and actually do anything. I just want those other people across the world to fix it for me.

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      That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won’t do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they’d do it for it’s political doppelgänger.

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        I think it’s more likely they’ll go after us than go after Israel, because the world doesn’t have centuries or millenia of anti American bigotry stored up that in a twisted fashion leads them to let the Israeli government do whatever it wants to poor Muslims as long as that means there’s a Jewish state.

        What complicates matters is all the military power we have and the certainty most people have that Trump would order it to attack anyone who embargoes us.

      • stringere@sh.itjust.works
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        I’m almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens’ abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.

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    Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.

    Or lawsuits.

    • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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      You need to find, pressure, back up, help and signalboost elected politicians who are willing to challenge that. Or civilians going the route of lawsuits. Or Luigy some motherfucker or two, but that’s more of a desperate option.

    • LengAwaits@lemmy.world
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      "To understand revolutionary suicide it is first necessary to have an idea of reactionary suicide, for the two are very different. Reactionary suicide: the reaction of a man who takes his own life in response to social conditions that overwhelm him and condemn him to helplessness.”

      “I do not think that life will change for the better without an assault on the Establishment, which goes on exploiting the wretched of the earth. This belief lies at the heart of the concept of revolutionary suicide. Thus it is better to oppose the forces that would drive me to self-murder than to endure them. Although I risk the likelihood of death, there is at least the possibility, if not the probability, of changing intolerable conditions.”

      “But before we die, how shall we live? I say with hope and dignity; and if premature death is the result, that death has a meaning reactionary suicide can never have. It is the price of self-respect.”

      – Dr. Huey P. Newton

  • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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    No one is doing anything, because we all decided when facists win legally, we must play by their rules of must not do anything about it.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      No one is doing anything

      Plenty of not-terminally-online people are organizing to resist mass arrests and deportations. Reach out to your local DSA. My Houston chapter’s been great about pulling together legal resources, just for starters.

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    Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

    I’ve seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

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      General strike is the way to go. It’s like peaceful protesting but it’s devastating to the thing they care about most. Older gen are mostly trumpets so they also get hit when their generational wealth drys up and they get to be the ones worrying about making rent.

      I’ve been saying it but most people are hard programed not to question anything and never stick their neck out. I would have hoped concentration camps would be a line in the sand but just look, all over the this post people are obsfucating who is responsible. They think it’s important to assign blame to democrats, an almost irrelevant factor, after they proved they can no longer win elections at a national level.

      Anyway, I’ll be there with you when the strike hits. By that I mean the strike of the billy club as they throw me in a patty wagon for dissent.

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        General strike is the way to go.

        While you’re right that this is what will change course for the nation, not many people get is exactly WHAT a “general strike” really is.

        There is no possible way we can get enough people on board with toppling the current administration that they will shut down basically the whole world. A general strike shuts down everything and I mean EVERYTHING. The amount of economic damage an event like this could do is astronomical, factories will burn, shipping lanes will choke, services will go out.

        Ideally it would only last a couple days, but a general strike is basically a military action by a nation’s citizens, an organized resistance that crushes a country’s entire function. When the wealthy suddenly stop making money, it can permanently ruin them because of the way capital is tied through everything. They really, really don’t want to see even less-general strikes, and will do everything imaginable to prevent it from happening.