A pardoned domestic terrorist with a gun and a problem with law enforcement? What could go wrong?
Here’s to hoping for another 1500 “justice by traffic stops.”
I’d rather they get educated/rehabbed.
Especially since the people with actual power and greater culpability have only gained from the constant stream of lies that led them to believe this was okay.
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America does not rehabilitate prisoners. The U.S. prison system is entirely about retribution. So that was never going to happen.
Your autocorrect has seemingly substituted “retribution” in place of “profit”
A little of column A and a little of column B.
Cheap labor too
That’s a good start, but we have to speed up that pace.
He would still be alive if he was still in jail
He was only sentenced to six months. He’d be dead anyway.
Oh that’s good
Why in the fuck are we suddenly cheering extrajudicial killing just because, for once, it wasn’t someone from our side?
… Oh, yeah okay, it wasn’t someone from our side. For once.
Have you ever heard the saying
"“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”
Happy to have read about this one :)
IDGAF about this guy dying, good riddance, but I do care that so many people in this thread are openly cheering the cops having killed him. I’m aware of the irony, I just think the sheer amount of bloodlust on display here is pretty concerning. Do people think the cops like… meant to do this? They’re just going to keep killing us, but they screwed up and got one of their guys this time.
Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. He had a gun and resisted arrest. They’re the ones who promoted this society and tough guy police in the first place. People see some poetic karma.
Sorry bud, I’m not losing sleep over this one.
FAFO is the new ACAB, got it.
Me neither. Doesn’t mean it should be celebrated.
Nah. It’s because justice was subverted and karma came in with steel chair to correct things.
Pardons used to be used (usually) terribly to forgive rich assholes who made large campaign contributions… that was awful and I hate it.
In this case the recipients literally tried to overthrow the government… it’s beyond the fucking pale.
I think that pardons are a terrible tool - if there is injustice that needs correction it should be done within the system so that everyone can benefit. Pardons, in their best use, just correct individual injustices while leaving the unjust system that caused the issue unaffected.
The same reason we cheered when Luigi (allegedly) shot the UH CEO.
Some people make the world a better place by leaving it.
I’m not weeping over this asshole dying, it’s just tough to cheer for vigilante justice when… well, when its the police doing it.
I definitely get where you’re coming from. But the judicial system has so completely failed us (bullshit interpretations of laws, pushing right-wing jurisprudence, ignoring obvious corruption of SCOTUS justices, not holding Trump responsible for fucking *anything") that it’s hard to not be satisfied when one of these traitors gets any kind of justice.
extrajudicial killing
What the fuck are you talking about? He was killed by a on-duty cop while resisting arrest. It’s not like The Punisher showed up and executed him. There is literally nothing extrajudicial about it. By definition.
I think you might be misremembering what the term means.
Out of or beyond the power authority of a court or judge; beyond jurisdiction; not valid as a part of a judicial proceeding
This is very much an extrajudicial killing. Justified sure, apparently. I’m pretty uncomfortable with how willing this community is to parrot the Blue Lives Matter talking points, though that’s whatever. I understand the need people have for vindictive pleasure, and I sure hope that’s all this is.
Police are allowed to kill on the job. It’s legal.
It’s situationally legal, yes.
Unless you’re one of those nutters who thinks wikipedia isn’t a valid source at best you’re disagreeing with what is not considered extrajudicial.
deaths caused by legal police actions such as self defense or legal warfighting on a battlefield are generally not included, even though military and police forces are often used for killings seen by critics as illegitimate.
The need to preemptively dismiss criticism of your sources kinda speaks to a personal doubt in the validity of said sources, but that article seems fine so I don’t know why you felt the need to do that? You’re all good as far as I can tell! I don’t actually see anything there I’m in disagreement with though. Thank you for being thorough!
Because in the current social environment people call “Wokepedia” or just otherwise dismiss it as “unreliable” when it says something they don’t like. So yes sometimes you need to head off the bullshit. I apologize for the tone and defensiveness.
I was going to say the same thing, but the courts have let plenty of police murderers go unpunished, so I suppose that means the courts have given them that authority.
That’s not an unreasonable point. Though it might drive me to drinking again if I think about it too hard.
Because the judicial system has failed categorically. The only people getting beaten down by it are “on our side”, that kinda means extrajudicial means of justice are the only ones left.
Unrelated, but what do boots taste like? Are they as leathery as id imagine, or more earthy?
So you’re… wait, are you praising the cops here?
There’s a difference between praising cops and appreciating the irony of the guy who supported Trump, lover of police violence, dying in a police shoot-out.
Similarly, on a historical note, I’m not going to praise mass-murderer Stalin for killing Nazis to save his own ass, but I sure as hell am not going to condemn him for it.
Sure, and the irony in the original post is as obvious as it is in scubus’ comment. They seem to present this - an extrajudicial killing by the police, the enforcement arm of the judicial system - as an example of the extrajudicial justice we must rely on since the judicial system has categorically failed us. It just doesn’t make sense (and it has nothing to do with my initial comment)
What should we rely on instead to stop these extremely violent people who got a full pardon? Because as far as I can tell, the only way they will be stopped is if they go up against the fascist cops.
That’s not praising the cops, that’s saying there’s no one else. Because there is no one else.
Squiddy, are you seriously saying our only hope is the cops? I know you love arguing against things but if that’s what you sincerely believe you have lost your damn mind.
It’s called fighting fire with fire.
Again, what should we rely on instead? You didn’t answer.
I agree, arrest the cop too.
It’s almost as though his supporters are a bunch of violent extremists.
But. If that were true, why would the incoming president pardon them!?
Get rekt
I don’t feel good that this was my reaction, but I stand by it:
Hey you should never celebrate cops killing somebody who…
Oh? You mean the Jan 6 terrorists who literally attacked cops and then got presidential pardons? Those guys?
Oh yeah okay then.
When Trump sent his mob of terrorists into the Capitol building to stop Democracy, he wasn’t sending his best and brightest.
I mean, he was. Those are his best and brightest.
should’ve just complied…
No body cam video?
He shouldn’t have resisted
Well if Trump is the MAGA Jesus, I wanna see him bring this guy back to life. Pardon him from death.
Oh so these guys supported Trump after all? Whatever happened to them being Antifa and BLM?
trump pardoned all the antifas and made it terrorism at the same time
