• sndmn@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    5 days ago

    Good luck finding a jury to convict him of jaywalking.

    Some homicides are self defence.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      45
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 days ago

      We’re in a pretty nice bubble here on Lemmy and the fediverse. There’s a LOT of bootlickers who happily want him convicted

      • PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        Vigilante justice only feels nice when you agree with the Vigilante. The curse of internet bubbles is that people feel like everyone agrees. Bubbles build extreme values and a lack of understanding of other peoples values.

        You become right. Others become bootlickers.

        • smayonak@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          4 days ago

          A competing viewpoint is that our health insurance system is fine and that denying people coverage and either saddling them with debt or causing their deaths is also fine. Anyone who thinks that way hasn’t had to deal with a claim getting rejected. But with AI reject bots becoming more common over time everyone will. Pain can teach empathy.

          Most people are fine with a little institutionalized corruption but when essential services like healthcare stop functioning they’re going to get very angry. It’s not so much vigilante justice as it is an insurrection against bad governance.

          • PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            4 days ago

            Or… killing people is wrong, even shitty people.

            Or actually lots and lots of reasons. In a nuanced world filled with billions of people, there are very different viewpoints.

            • smayonak@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 days ago

              We can frame violence in ways that justify or invalidate its righteousness.

              It depends on how you define “wrong”. But there are universal truths. If someone tries to kill or harm you it’s considered just if you harm them in defense.

              We dont know Luigi’s legal defense yet but my guess is his attorney will argue self defense. If so the justice system now has to sort out whether this was self defense and in that sense it will likely be considered wrong.

        • LenielJerron@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          Sometimes the consequence for doing a good thing is that people like that you did a good thing, legality be damned.

    • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      4 days ago

      For that very reason… He will never see a jury. This will be decided by ONE judge…

      Who has already written his poinion

      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        6th amendment guarantees the right to a jury trial. The only way he doesn’t see a jury is if he waives that right.