• pg_jglr@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    Just in case you forgot the /s tag, that person’s job isn’t to collect the carts scattered across the parking lot, it’s to move the carts from the cart area to inside the store. The right way to handle the lack of cart areas isn’t to make the workers job harder, it’s to complain to the store.

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      8 days ago

      So they can do nothing about it? Have you ever tried to phone a supermarket before?Some supermarkets cut back on the number of spots so customers could do the job of car park staff without paying them cutting jobs in the process. It was deliberate.

      Tesco do it, others like ASDA have the cart spots closer to the end of the car park.

      I guess if you’re that compliant in serving the capitalist class you can wash your dishes after you go to the restaurant. They’d love the “efficiencies”

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        “I will not comply in serving the capitalist class!” I screech, as I shit on the floor of a Wendy’s. “The so called “efficiencies” of a toilet only serve to annihilate the jobs once held by the noble proletariat janitors!” I yell as the police drag me out of the establishment.

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          No one historically shit on floors in supermarkets. They did historically have more cart spots, but decided to save money and cut jobs. The assumption is people will start doing the work for them.

          They were very much right.

          They put on self-service tills in the hope that folk would do it free. When they used to hire 30 checkout staff, they now hire 2 per 12 tills, so they save on 20 checkout staff per shift. Of course they weren’t redeployed to shelf stacking, as they already had shelf stackers. They just went to the job centre.

          If you are happy being complicit in the losses of jobs, go ahead. Persuade yourself you’re moral and descent. You can either clap on the AI job losses as they hunt “productivity”.

          Supermarkets have jobs to keep the car park clear, and if it only needs 1, they’ll hire one. If it needs half a shift, that person goes inside half the shift, but now they need less shelf stackers as they’re over subscribed, so they can remove one head count off that. If a supermarket has a cart spot near my car, I’ll use it. If I have to walk 5 mins out my way to the entrance, it’ll be placed neatly to the side joined to other abandoned carts not filling spaces and not blocking access to folk getting past.

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            7 days ago

            In a classless stateless utopia where food was free and no one had to work it would still be considered polite and common courtesy to put away your shopping cart when you’re done using it at the local food co-op.

            The floor shitting analogy is that we shouldn’t have people doing something rude just because it creates or maintains another job. Everyone can agree on the floor shitting analogy and it maps perfectly onto this argument. If you want you can add a preamble of “in this world, everyone used to shit on floors and there was a janitorial staff to clean it up.”

            They put on self-service tills in the hope that folk would do it free. When they used to hire 30 checkout staff, they now hire 2 per 12 tills, so they save on 20 checkout staff per shift. Of course they weren’t redeployed to shelf stacking, as they already had shelf stackers. They just went to the job centre.

            So by this logic you want gas station attendants back at gas stations, and for people to stop using ATM machines in favor of tellers? Maybe we shouldn’t use computers because of all of the stenography and data management jobs that were lost, not to mention all of the paper mills that were shut down as people moved away from using so much paper. As you see, jobs appear and disappear all the time. Why do you want people doing meaningless redundant jobs for the sake of their employment? That’s just cruel.

            Maybe we should bring back the lamplighter guild and get back to using horses. Gas lights and carriages created a lot of jobs that were rudely snuffed out.

      • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 days ago

        Just get your lazy ass to walk a couple of meters. Jesus Christ. This is another of these issues only present in America yet americans pretend like it isnt their fault.