Kids should enjoy Christmas. But fuck conspicuous consumerism and fuck corporate profits. Adults shouldn’t buy Christmas gifts for each other, IMO.
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Uh, what?
What makes you think Christmas is for kids? Just because they enjoy it? Shall we ban movies, video games, etc for adults too?
I’ve never heard someone suggest that adults shouldn’t enjoy their hard earned holidays, and spread joy with gifts and such to each other, because they’re no longer 12 or whatever.
What makes you think my and my family and friends enjoyment of Christmas is less important than slightly reducing how much money some shop might make for a few weeks?
I’ll keep enjoying the small joys of life, thanks. Kids can sod off.
I specified gifts. You can still enjoy the holiday without excessive unnecessary consumption.
I’m sorry that you can’t enjoy your Xmas if adult exchange gifts.
I feel badly for you. And a large part of me suspects this post is just trawling for arguments and bad faith.
Happy Holidays!
OP’s post is not mean-spirited in any way. Re-read it and see. You, on the other hand, have rushed straight to condescension (“I feel badly for you”) and a outright accusations of bad faith. “Happy holidays” indeed.
Deck the halls with anger and fighting! Falalalalalala
I’m sorry you can’t distinguish materialism as distinctly different from celebrating with family and friends. Enjoy being brainwashed by ads.
I’m making gifts for family that I know they will love and appreciate. Gift giving is only as much about consumerism as you make it. To reject getting joy out of seeing someone else get something they would love is a bit short sighted.
That’s awesome, but let’s not ignore the billions in profits, and questionable spending, and plastic waste production that goes on every year because people feel cultural pressure to buy things for other adults. For every one thoughtful person like you, there’s a thousand buying junk nobody wants or needs.
This guy’s over here making hand crafted cash…wait, that’s illegal.
Yeah, you’re completely missing why adults like gift exchanges. Hint: it’s not because of ads and consumerism.
Yeah it is. Consumerism eats into all of us, hard. All those gazillions spent on marketing junk to us, do you think the executives would sign off on it if it had no effect?
Doesn’t have to be, I’ll buy you socks since you need a new pair
Looks like this is more c/unpopularopinion territory.
We should all agree to boo Boozilla.
BOOOOO
I agree. Adult gifts should be based on actually coming a cross something that would be great for someone when you have the means. It should be spontaneous with no reciprical expectations.
Thank you, well said.
Well, fuck that
If anyone was planning on giving @Boozilla@lemmy.world something nice for Christmas, they can give it to me instead.
Birthday parties should be only for kids.
I mean, just tell your family not to get you anything and spend it on the kids instead.
Lots of families do it that way, you don’t need to convince everyone before you do it, just do it
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to hope (even if naively so) for a cultural shift away from the “Black Friday” mentality that taints the holidays.
Cool, but that’s not what you’re doing.
You’re complaining people aren’t doing it, be in the change you want to see, but don’t go around telling people they’re doing it wrong.
Such defensiveness. OP is practicing as they preach, and nobody is “telling people” to do anything. We’re just discussing commonly held assumptions.
and nobody is “telling people” to do anything.
Literally the title of the post:
We should all agree that Christmas gifts are for kids only.
C’mon…
Suggesting is not telling.
So, nobody should ever nudge others towards new behaviors or ideas? And how do you know who I do and don’t buy gifts for? Lot of assumptions here.
Just this is exhausting, I couldn’t imagine a whole in person holiday
At least stand by your principle in the same post. Consumerism is bad, therefore everyone should celebrate Christmas without buying a bunch of things. “For the kids” seems like a random concession to your strong belief.
I don’t see it as that black and white. Kids get special treatment in many different contexts.
One person’s “random concession to a strong belief” is another person’s admirable pragmatism! Kids get a free pass, that’s the whole point of being a kid! It’s the mindlessly wasteful adults we object to.
It makes sense though. Adults can buy whatever they want without hoping it would be gifted to them. Kids on the other hand aren’t exactly swimming in disposable income.
what it gets me is adult secret santa with wishlists, i think these list are for kids that don’t have the means to buy whatever they want, secret santa usually has a low budget limit, so if an adult want something, they already bought it themselves, at this point it should be down to surprising each other, that would be where the fun dwells
Adult Christmas gifts are more about the gesture than giving something expensive to me. Expressing your appreciation for your loved ones.
They booed Boozilla because Boozilla was right.
I agree. Throughout the whole years if I want something, I buy it. If I don’t want something, I don’t.
But all of a sudden around November or December I need to hold off for a bit because someone else wants to buy it for me instead. And it’s usually not quite the same thing that I wanted- I don’t want to be rude, but I would have rather just done the research on my own and made my own purchase.
Or worse, I get gifted stuff I have absolutely no interest in. So I need to make space in my house for it and remember to pretend like I use it on occasions when I see that person for a couple of years until we are past the statue of limitations on getting rid of it.
Just more plastic and emissions. More money going to big corporations. It’s an inefficient purchasing process propped up for the sake of the emotions of irrational people. And corporations like Hallmark seem to exist specifically to amplify these traditions for the benefit of modern shareholders.
Thank you for the adult perspective.
