• BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    What OS would be helpful. I assume you mean Windows.

    If running Home, that’s half the problem. It’s got more crap than Pro, and lacks support for Group Policy. If you can run Pro, it’s a big help.

    WinDebloat on Github works very well.

    Even better is to use the LTSC (Long-term Service Channel) versions of Windows. These already have almost no bloat, and won’t break stuff from updates, because they only get security updates twice a year. No monthly feature updates.

    The LTSC link above also has activation scripts, provided by microsoft.

    • Venator@lemmy.nz
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      20 days ago

      What OS would be helpful.

      What other OS comes pre-installed with bloatware? I guess maybe chromeos?

      • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        22 days ago

        It is more like solidarity. We were all there at some point. Few, if any of us started with open source software. Most here are simply saying we’ve been there, tried to solve the problems and never found a working solution. We are also saying 'it is not so bad on this side of the fence despite the grumblings of those unwilling or unable to escape the fenced field at the slaughter house. Sure, we’re not fed corn fodder and the meds to process it in a special trough, but there’s some pretty cool stuff to eat out here on open ground if you’re willing to browse and try it. There are some asshats for sure, and it is not always easy to find the food, but life doesn’t seem half bad.

        That’s all I’m saying any time I say Linux is the solution. I’m not all that bright and I did it. You probably can too. In my case, I’m on 3yo high end hardware too. So even the stereotype of poor old stuff doesn’t really jive. I gladly tell people to use linux-hardware.org to see what works and ask questions if they don’t understand. With Linux stuff, block anyone that makes toxic negative comments here and move on. There is always someone at your level that is more than willing to help if they can find you and visa versa.

        This isn’t some consumerism meaningless polarized fight or team sport. We were all there. We didn’t find a solution. We’re not inside another fence, we hacked the fence into freedom, and you can too.

        • kamiheku@sopuli.xyz
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          22 days ago

          I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

          Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

          There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system.

          Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

      • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Give them what they want, not what they asked for. If you really care about bloat, no proprietary system will save you.

        • orcrist@lemm.ee
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          20 days ago

          Or not smug. There’s a problem with a solution. You think it’s a program problem, but maybe it’s actually an OS problem.

          Of course there are reasons to use Windows, but that doesn’t mean OP has one.

    • Nougat@fedia.io
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      22 days ago

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      • stinky@redlemmy.comEnglish
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        22 days ago

        OP didn’t ask to use Linux. An intelligent person would understand that because OP asked about debloating we can safely assume they are not using Linux, and thus have reasons for using a different OS, which may not be within their control, such as a laptop provided to them by their employer. Honestly, what were you thinking?

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Also, if Windows was ever activated on that machine, it’s good to go forever. Far quicker to reinstall and wipe (as part of the process) than mucking around removing crap.

      SOURCE: Done this a 100 times for corporate machines.

    • Magister@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      This, and for missing drivers, I always have a SSD with SDIO and the latest driver pack (something like 30GB)

      • Gerudo@lemm.ee
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        21 days ago

        I can’t believe this is the first time I’ve heard about this tool. Amazing

  • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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    22 days ago

    Install this app All you gotta do is install it to a USB and boot from it and then bloat free! 😎

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      22 days ago

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  • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
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    22 days ago

    using a third-party utility to forcibly remove or delete programs is somewhat risky and may screw something up or otherwise cause more problems than you believe it to be ‘fixing’.

    nearly all the ‘bundleware’ on mass market systems is well-behaved (as far as uninstalling goes), these days. just uninstall the crud you don’t want. leave stuff designed for the hardware, though, like hotkeys and osd and whatnot. if you’re unsure if something is needed, ask someone knowledgeable.

    then go through windows settings and turn off the crap you don’t want or use tried-and-true shutup10 (which works with 11, too) and its ‘recommended’ settings. note that disabling settings in it may require you to use that utility again later to re-enable something (some settings can no longer be modified from windows itself unless switched-back by su10), so keep the shutup10 executable around in case it’s needed later.

    • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      22 days ago

      Yup. I’ve installed and re-installed Windows more times than I care to count, and this is basically my method when dealing with new PCs with bundleware. It’s not like the bad old days. The provided uninstallers work just fine as long as the PC is from a reputable source.

  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
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    22 days ago

    If you’re running Windows, do a fresh install of stock Windows version, because manufacturers like HP often add keyloggers and shit into their own tools.

    • Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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      22 days ago

      ok now you got me curious keyloggers? not that you have to but can you cite where you read that? I think it would be a neat read and something to search for. no sarcasm in that.

      • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
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        22 days ago

        I’ve experienced it personally when my ex got her laptop back then and the antivirus software would immediately go off on nearly all HP programs that were preinstalled.

        • Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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          21 days ago

          No sarcasm in this or anything but WTF? Is there a site that identifies them or something? Kind of like 2 days after I bought my laptop a popup came on while I was on my desktop say my warranty wasn’t covered and they did no telephone help. I went to the site and it was hp.com so I called them up today and they sounded like I was crazy. I sent them a screen shot and they said they would be investigating.?