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Good… We’ll need them for the resistance
I mean… They’ve only been allowed quite recently…
…no? According to SPARTA over 76% of trans people in the military have been there for at least fifteen years
Openly?
Edit: Also I don’t consider 15 years to be “that long” in this context…
No. We have been allowed defacto since 2013 and officially since 2016, but have been in the military the whole time.
And still, we let him live.
A couple of people have tried to go back in time to kill him, but were unsuccessful.
Unsuccessful at killing him or going back in time?
Yes
They will always be unsuccessful in this timeline. Maybe they managed it in others.
How to create government jobs, while also remaining a christofascist overlord. Just like old times, eh?
An easy to get general discharge from the military? I think lots of people with years left to serve are going to enjoy leaving early with all of their benefits.
Elon and Ramaswamy have already identified the VA as a target for cost cutting.
The VA, often criticized for consistently being over funded and helping disabled veterans live like kings. :/
Oh dude do not get me started. But it is better than what I would have without the VA.
Oh yeah, I’m glad it’s there and able to do what it can with the resources it’s given.
I’m not a veteran but like many I have friends and family who served. It never ceases to amaze me how much support republicans in general and “suckers and losers, what was in it for them” Trump republicans in particular get from the armed forces.
It would upset me, but then I remember that’s how they treat all their followers and the armed forces are just another job for the working class to fill. They practice equal opportunity contempt.
I have a feeling most of the benefits will be going out the door behind them shortly thereafter.
Yeah. He also wants to prevent using military healthcare for transgender care. So even if they could get VA benefits it wouldn’t help where trans people need it most.
I have to hope their contractually obligated to provide them. If not I’d look forward to the class action suite but then again the judges are openly corrupt. America is a clusterf*ck right now.
Fun fact, when you join you waive your right to sue the military. Might be able to sue the VA or parts of the government though.
That’s not actually true. It’s just very restricted, the contracts and laws around your service make it very hard. You can’t sue for things that are legal orders and you generally can’t sue specific people. You can absolutely sue the DoD for things like breach of contract. For example if you were processed out of active duty normally, on time and everything, and then were arrested for desertion a month later you would likely have a case against the DoD. It just has to be off the wall stuff like that.
Laws don’t matter to Orange Julius, I doubt contracts do either.
I hope I’m wrong for a lot of people’s sake tho.
Then place them in internment camps. We know where this is going you damn Nazi.
I assume that’s the plan with RFK’s “wellness camps”. Define gender dysphoria as a qualifying mental illness, and send transgender folks there to replace migrant workers who have been deported.
He’s already completed the first step, by making them seem inhuman and criminal
Which is ironic, because he’s the one who boasted about perving on kids
Here we go folks, welcome to the hellscape that is the new America
Honestly, it was a hellscape before, we just shifted down a level deeper.
Maybe we’ll finally see strict gun laws, albeit aimed at disarming the opposing populous.
Ooor, we create a well regulated militia with 15,000 new soldiers!
I’d support the establishment of a Trans Army
I propose the name TransReformers: soldiers in disguise.
Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia
So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.
Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population
That also surprises me.
Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit
The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.
For instance (I’m going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you’re active duty, I believe they’ll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need “approval” to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won’t hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you’re about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you’re supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.
The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren’t legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.
With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they’re going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. “The states can choose their
drinking agegender affirming care, but those who don’t follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding.”
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My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.
Oh no please don’t send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!
I’m under the impression it would devastate the livelihood of those people.
Unfortunately this is probably true, I’m sure they will find a way to take away their veteran’s benefits as well. :(
Looks like well-regulated militias are back on the menu
Just going to completely wreck US cybersecurity defense.
Pfft, that shits been contracted out for years (honestly understandable, hard to have consistent network defense with a constantly rotating (deploying) workforce of active duty military)
They don’t exactly deploy cyber security soldiers to do combat patrols. They’re doing the same job whether they’re in D.C. or Berlin.
Lots of IT still in the military also some of the “contract out” is done by reservist and is tied to their military contract. Those still in military are your tier 3 IT and admin.
It has long been said that if all the furries and catgirls disappeared it would cause the internet to collapse overnight.
What’s a catgirl? Is there a signup for that?
No only a test and you just passed. Congrats
Cat ears and tail will be emailed to you. Congratulations recruit. Don’t ask how we know where you live :-P.
It’s part of the plan. fucking traitor.
Coding socks are the new contraband.
I love/hate that I get all these references lol
Next they’ll go after the furries and take all the navy’s data centers offline
You think with the recruiting problems we have you’d do your best to retain the people we have.
If you can get through basic and fulfill your tasks you should be able to be in the military. If the government doesn’t want to pay for “gender affirming care” that’s fine. But these people should still be allowed in the military.
Also, what kind of discharge are these people getting? Honorable, General, Dishonorable?
Elsewhere somebody said Medical, don’t have a source myself.
It said it in this article.
This is the internet, I read headlines and comment sections, not articles! /s
100 % doubt this happens… Oh the fear porn.
Why do you think it won’t happen?
He’s enjoyed thirty years of relative peace and serenity in a country that doesn’t usually bomb itself that often.
It’ll happen. Three minutes later, they’ll discover what a bad idea it is to kick people out of the army in the middle of a recruiting shortage. Nothing will be learned and they’ll skip along to the next bad idea.
He did it during his first administration. I was planning on joining the Navy and becoming a doctor at the time.
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This is the same shit we did with black people and then the gays until acceptance of those groups was so widespread that US fascists could no longer successfully target them.
If you learned history you would know this is just the next group right wing movements are scapegoating instead of offering any policy whatsoever that improves people’s lives.
Thanks for being the example of how ignorance fosters fascist beleifs, fear, and hatered, of people who are different than you.
I can only assume the “they” you are referring to is Orange Hitler and all his cronies.
The ideological score here must be worth more to Trump than the strength of America’s military, already hurting for new recruits, which says a lot and frankly scares the fuck out of me
Weakening the USA’s military seems to be a consistent theme with Trump.
Putin’s puppet.
I think this signals the beginning of a very tough era for trans people more than it does anything about national security. But we shall see
Well, the problem is you’re thinking logically. It’s an ideological victory on both ends for him.
Conservatives view this as strengthening the military, not weakening it.
The actual strength of America’s Military doesn’t matter because they don’t have hostile nations on their borders. So when America’s Military loses some of their force projection ability it can be used to say we’re turning towards isolationist policy, which is also a win for him. (From the Putin angle and from the Conservative one)
And, again, if you point out that this move will weaken the American Military, well what are you? A terrorist who doesn’t believe they have the greatest, manliest fighting force ever seen?
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Elon will supply robot troops for the clone war.
Might supply them for the other side.
Both sides. Like Ford.
Merchant of death
