Summary

U.S. Muslim leaders who supported Trump to protest Biden’s stance on Gaza and Lebanon now feel betrayed by Trump’s pro-Israel Cabinet picks.

His appointments of Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, Mike Huckabee as ambassador to Israel, and Elise Stefanik as UN ambassador have drawn sharp criticism, with some accusing the administration of pursuing “Zionist overdrive” and “neoconservative” priorities.

Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the “Abandon Harris” campaign and co-founded “Muslims for Trump,” and Rexhinaldo Nazarko, executive director of AMEEN, feel betrayed by broken promises of peace.

“It’s like he’s going on Zionist overdrive,” said Nazarko, adding, “it does look like our community has been played.”

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    And be honest, we’re looking at like 5% more genocide than Biden.

    Let’s say that’s true. I don’t believe it’s true, but let’s say it is… that’s worse, right? Would you go to Palestine and tell people there “only 5% more of you will die now that Trump has been elected, so it’s about the same as before?”

    What a crazy bit of hand waving away a huge problem of your own admission.

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      8 days ago

      I’m not counting bodies, I’m saying the relative dedication to genocide is not significantly different in impact. The material difference from Biden is literally just the 2000 lb. bombs, with an unquantifiable and unreliable hope that Democrats would snap out of it and start doing better. Hope meant it was worth trying for, because a change could be a big deal, but very likely the real difference in death come January 20th is going to be minimal compared to the death that Biden has already overseen and allowed.

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        I’m not counting bodies, I’m saying the relative dedication to genocide is not significantly different in impact.

        That’s literally counting bodies. Even if your 5% figure is right, that’s a difference in thousands of deaths.

        Again, would you say such a thing to someone in Gaza? That thousands more dead than there would have been otherwise is not significantly different in impact? Would you say it to a parent who’s child was amongst those thousands?

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          It’s not a “right” figure, it’s an expression of small differences. Stop trying to do math and just read what I’m writing. 99 vs. 100, 99.9 vs. 100, really bad vs. slightly more bad, whatever expression you’d prefer. The difference in impact is limited because Biden has presented practically no restriction or resistance.

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            7 days ago

            I think you are the one who needs to do math, because you’re going from a 5% difference to a 1% difference to a 0.1% difference (which I don’t think you have realized) and I am saying that if you asked anyone in Palestine they would say that even one less death would be preferable. Especially if that one less death was their child.

            Every life lost is a significant impact. Every human being in this world has a potential to make a massive difference.

            And I’m sad that you don’t seem to understand that.

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              You need to keep reading my posts until you get it through your head that I didn’t pick 5% or 1% or 0.1% because there was an estimate of increased casualties, it’s just an expression of the degradation being marginal. None of the numbers mean anything. One is worse (Trump), but on this issue not by a lot, and when someone is voting emotionally because they know people who been killed, they may not be in the head space to see a small difference as more important than their anger.

              You can talk about passionless objective voters calculating death percentages all you want, but that was never the topic of conversation. I’m not in that population, I made my calculation and a little less death is worth it, but I don’t blame anyone who lost a relative, watched Harris and Biden barely even give lip service to them and their community, and then told them to go fuck themselves. Haha, leopard sure ate their faces, what idiots.