Parents are the absolute worst people to make decisions of their children’s medical decisions they are just the default, in a perfect world we would have a body of politically isolated experts determining medical decisions for children. But we don’t live in that world so until we do we should have as few elective medical treatment’s on children as possible.
By politically isolated I’m going to assume you just mean conversion therapists who will try to convince children they are not gay or trans. Because if you’re not giving them affirmative care and listening to them the alternative is denying them.
Conversion therapy kills people. That’s what it does. That’s all it does. It is NOT possible to stop someone from being gay or trans. It has never been shown to be possible in any fucking way. Conversion therapy does not work, has never worked, and is equivalent in mental distress to severe psychological torture. It frequently involves physical and sexual assault. It involves emotional abuse and manipulation. All in service of forcing us to conform. This is the alternative. If you’re against affirmative care this is what you’re for. Think about telling these people that what happened to them was right. Think about going to the lived ones of people who took their lives while undergoing conversion therapy. Think about telling them that what happened is right and should be legal. This is what you’re advocating for. This is the side that you’re on.
This is exactly why I am luck to have citizenship so we can emigrate to the UK. My daughter is queer (not trans, but they will come for all queer people eventually) and the UK is working to outlaw conversion therapy.
I wish I could take every queer person, especially every trans person, with us.
Are you sure about the UK squid? Wasn’t there a huge ordeal there for not extending the conversion therapy ban to transgender care? That’s what I had read.
My daughter is not transgender. She defines herself (at 14, she’s still figuring things out) as omnisexual, but she’s only ever been interested in girls.
And yeah, they’ll go after the trans people first, but they won’t stop there.
Sure, ok, just don’t fool yourself thinking the place is safe. Transgender people have been targeted with all the hate right enough, but things are not as chill for gay people as they used to be either.
We have this in every country. In America it’s called the American Medical Association. It’s been invented already. There’s even specific subgroups and organizations of doctors and such that advocate for people who have particular problems and troubles, like the Multiple Sclerosis Research Society, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, and the American Stroke Organization. These things exist and they help people.
But you think I’m an AI, don’tcha? I’m not even snidely insulting you in this one. I’m trying to help in good faith.
Then again, you’re not here in good faith, so what can I do?
(The answer is to keep this here in case anyone is reading in good faith, and they can benefit from this comment. Guess I’m not really writing about you at all.)
Parents are the absolute worst people to make decisions of their children’s medical decisions they are just the default, in a perfect world we would have a body of politically isolated experts determining medical decisions for children. But we don’t live in that world so until we do we should have as few elective medical treatment’s on children as possible.
By politically isolated I’m going to assume you just mean conversion therapists who will try to convince children they are not gay or trans. Because if you’re not giving them affirmative care and listening to them the alternative is denying them.
Conversion therapy kills people. That’s what it does. That’s all it does. It is NOT possible to stop someone from being gay or trans. It has never been shown to be possible in any fucking way. Conversion therapy does not work, has never worked, and is equivalent in mental distress to severe psychological torture. It frequently involves physical and sexual assault. It involves emotional abuse and manipulation. All in service of forcing us to conform. This is the alternative. If you’re against affirmative care this is what you’re for. Think about telling these people that what happened to them was right. Think about going to the lived ones of people who took their lives while undergoing conversion therapy. Think about telling them that what happened is right and should be legal. This is what you’re advocating for. This is the side that you’re on.
This is exactly why I am luck to have citizenship so we can emigrate to the UK. My daughter is queer (not trans, but they will come for all queer people eventually) and the UK is working to outlaw conversion therapy.
I wish I could take every queer person, especially every trans person, with us.
Are you sure about the UK squid? Wasn’t there a huge ordeal there for not extending the conversion therapy ban to transgender care? That’s what I had read.
My daughter is not transgender. She defines herself (at 14, she’s still figuring things out) as omnisexual, but she’s only ever been interested in girls.
And yeah, they’ll go after the trans people first, but they won’t stop there.
Sure, ok, just don’t fool yourself thinking the place is safe. Transgender people have been targeted with all the hate right enough, but things are not as chill for gay people as they used to be either.
I think the country banning conversion therapy for children is safer than the one that might force children to go to it.
I am sorry that people have to choose the lesser of two evils, yet here we are.
We have this in every country. In America it’s called the American Medical Association. It’s been invented already. There’s even specific subgroups and organizations of doctors and such that advocate for people who have particular problems and troubles, like the Multiple Sclerosis Research Society, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, and the American Stroke Organization. These things exist and they help people.
But you think I’m an AI, don’tcha? I’m not even snidely insulting you in this one. I’m trying to help in good faith.
Then again, you’re not here in good faith, so what can I do?
(The answer is to keep this here in case anyone is reading in good faith, and they can benefit from this comment. Guess I’m not really writing about you at all.)