An actual quote I saw today posted on Twitter: “Florida is a conservative Christian state, and they voted against murdering unborn babies. The democratic process is complete. They can leave if they want to do that.” There’s a lot to unpack there. I also got into an argument with the guy who posted it, who claimed somehow that it’s not ok for Federal government to regulate Women, but if states wants to do it then it’s ok, and they should just leave to another state then. like… wow. America is a strange place

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    So we’ve been going on for a pretty long time about how Florida is basically largely going to get completely lmaoed by climate change, and trying to warn people moving there and so on.

    But as time goes on, I’m thinking maybe it’s best if they suffer the consequences of their actions, and let the ocean have this one.

    Refugees will of course not be accepted in accordance with the new regime policy either, and FEMA has been fully dissolved.

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      18 days ago

      The problem is not everyone who wants to can move. Picking up everything and moving to New England or the West Coast is not viable for people making minimum wage.

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        It’s more viable for renters than people who have to sell a house no one will buy but is too much of their net worth for them to feel like they can walk away from it.

        In practice, sure, the situation is actually similar but the homeowners won’t feel like it is and humans are mostly illogical.

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          If you’re talking about stress, sure, a renter can relocate more easily than a home owner. Stress isn’t worth dollars, though. A homeowner is still much more likely to have the financial ability to relocate. If renters had spare cash of a substantial amount, don’t you think they’d put it towards owning?

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            How much do you think a mortgage down payment is? A U-Haul rental?

            You’re not wrong, but that’s a pretty wild point of order.

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              People will buy the house for sale. The country made it clear that half of the population is happy with one of the sides. Reds want to move out of blue states all the same. So yes, a down payment and a moving rental are a magnitude of order apart, but relocating still introduces huge expenses. A 600 mile trip with a 15’ truck and car trailer is about $1,000 (it’s the mileage rate that gets you). Hotels if needed, road food, security down payments, and gas are the easy ones to point out. Then there’s the added stress and costs of scoping out your destination, finding a suitable place, not being employed during the transition, losing your current social networks, and pulling it off solo. My point is that “just move” isn’t feasible to many of the people most affected by the predicted changes.

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        There won’t be much to pick up after it’s destroyed by mother Gaia.

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        They should have voted then, or if they did vote, vote a different way. America is going to get the government they deserve.

        Edit: and those poor people, those people are the cost of others’ decisions. Oh well. Sucks to be American

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      Climate change is the term that the GOP came up with in focus groups because it was “less scary”.

      Call it what it is. Global warming.

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        I think global warming as a term is not great, because it fails at communicating the end result of the overall average temperature increase, which is more chaotic weather on account of the increased energy present in the system. Sometimes this will mean temporary local reductions in temperature, and sometimes it will mean unusually cold years in places. Don’t give people the option to use ‘bUt iT’s cOlDeR tHiS yEAr sO hOw cAn gLoBaL wArMiNg bE rEaL’ as an easy argument.

        Climate change is the more accurate term, but I do prefer terms that more accurately communicate the severity of the situation, such as the climate crisis, for example.

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          Absolutely

          Global warming’ gave us that senator with the snowball

          In an ideal world we wouldn’t have to moderate accurate terms to prevent bad actors making dumb arguments

          But this is clearly not an ideal world