• tb_@lemmy.world
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      Vivaldi is my backup browser, but I don’t want to contribute to Chromium’s market share so Firefox it is 99% of the time.

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      Vivaldi is nice, but some people may not like it due to it being closed source(some of vivaldi is open source with a closed source ui) , personally I think its a little bit sluggish.

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    Between Manifest V3 and the Play Integrity API, Google is really trying hard to kill the open internet and android.

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    Stopped using that garbage browser a couple of weeks ago. Hardened Firefox ftw. Just using stock Firefox isn’t enough if you’re concerned about your privacy on the internet btw. If all you’re looking for is an ad free experience tho, then stock Firefox should be enough.

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      Firefox’s future isn’t looking good with all that layoffs and lost money. I am very scared that it might go the way of Opera, and then we will trully have nothing left.

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          Those are made on Firefox engine. That is made and maintained by the company Mozilla. Which is experiencing those problems.
          It’s like those people who say that they don’t use chrome because it’s shit and breaks privacy, they use edge and brave.

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            Firefox is a fully open source browser. Whether or not it fails and goes down doesn’t really matter, as its source code is out there for anyone to use, and build a browser off of it.

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          All of those are still standing on Firefox’s shoulders and the actual rendering engine on the browser isn’t really trivial thing to build. Sure, they’re not going away, and likely Firefox will be around too for quite a while, but the world wide web as we currently know it is changing and Google and Microsoft are few of the bigger players pushing the change.

          If you’re old enough you’ll remember the banners ‘Best viewed with <this browser> on <that resolution>’, and it’s not too far off from the future we’ll have if the big players get their wishes. Things like google suite, whatever meta is offering and pretty much “the internet” as your Joe Average understands it wants to implement technology where it’s not possible to block ads or modify the content you’re shown in any other way. It’s not too far off from your online banking and other very much real life affecting services start to have boundaries in place where they require certain level of ‘security’ from your browser and you can bet that things which allow content modifying things, like adblocker, doesn’t qualify for the new standards.

          On many places it’s already illegal to modify or tamper DRM protected content in any ways (does anyone remember libdvdcss?) and the plan is to include similar (more or less) restrictions to the whole world wide web, which would say that we’ll have things like fediverse who allow browsers like firefox and ‘the rest’ like banking, flight/ticket/hotel/whatever booking sites, big news outlets and so on who only allow the ‘secure’ version of the browser. And that of course has very little to do with actual security, they just want control over your device and what content is fed to you, regardless if you like it or not.

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    And my phaseout of Chrome is complete. My two browsers are now Firefox and Edge. Bit surprised at the latter tbh but it seems reasonably adequate as a secondary browser.

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      Edge isn’t really better in any way. It’s both Google and Microsoft, like the marriage of awful

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      My understanding is that Edge is Chromium and will also eventually be impacted by this.

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      Yup same here Firefox for personal use and Edge for work since it deals better with all the MS sites

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    I feel like I have seen this news since forever, I am happily living my life with Firefox… Although the android mobile really needs some love.

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      Oh man. Once Firefox on Android got extension support, I hopped on that train so hard. No ads on mobile browser? Heck yeah.

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        Well, if my memory serves well, Ublock Origin has been in Firefox mobile for a long time already but I get you.

        Although even before I did the switch I rarely saw ads on Google because I have always used DNS ad blocking (whether using my pi-hole or AdAway root version) but yeah Ublock Origin is just so much better.

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        One thing I would like is to selectively enable extensions in the “custom tab” modal for Firefox.

        When I open an article, and it’s riddled with js and auto play video, I have to hit “Open in Firefox” to get uBlock to engage.

        It would be nice to have the reader mode button in this view as well.

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          If it helps, you can dig into Androids settings and use Firefox for the default in-app browser for most apps. That’s what I did, anyway, and it’s been fantastic.

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        It has extensions support for like 6 years at this point. Unless you got some extreme obscure extensions

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      Eh, Firefox on Android works pretty well for me (I actually use Mull). There are a handful of websites that have issues, but many of them also have issues on Vanadium (Chromium on GrapheneOS), so I just use my desktop for those.

      What issues are you running into?

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        What issues are you running into?

        Tab management is plain bad, and the UI doesn’t feel snappy as, let’s say, Cromite or Chrome.

        All those are paid off because of the extension ability in Firefox.

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          Really? Tab management seems largely equivalent to Chrome, and the UI feels totally fine to me. Are you on an older device perhaps? It’s a bit slow on my old phone (4 years old), but my new one (Pixel 8) is absolutely fine.

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            Nah, my device is not high end, but it ships with a SD 865, and 6 GB of RAM.

            Have you used Chrome recently? It is just a better experience with Android, except because of the ads and shitty Google’s hand lol.

            It feels so good to have your grouped tabs always accessible at the bottom and you can quickly switch just by tapping the little icon.

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              I’ve used Vanadium (GrapheneOS build of Chrome), which is fine. And I didn’t know about that tab grouping feature, that’s pretty nice! I tend to only have a few tabs open though, so I just swipe on the URL bar to jump between them, which works acceptably well.

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                Yeah, many of us hoard a lot of tabs, for the better for worse, but even after some simple web searches you can gather a lot of links quickly, so it is always handy to have a good tab management.

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      i like it, tbh I barely use the phone. I need more RAM on it for it to be more useful. It’s crazy that even 8GB is not good enough. Dam Samsung bloat. I wish I had a stylus option for Google pixel or something that can take a privacy respecting OS.

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        The Samsung bloat is real. I have two identical Galaxy Tabs, one with Lineage and one stock, and the software on the stock one is so annoying to go back to after using the Lineage one.

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      Just wait, there will be “features” that are mandatory on most sites, only supported in chrome.

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        I usually use a useragent switcher to bypass.

        But the teams website for example opens a Microsoft specific browser api so its annoyingly locked to Edge specifically on mobile.

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        So download a user agent switcher and set it to show you as using chrome. This is what i do with firefox and i haven’t run across a site that thinks i’m using firefox.

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      Been using Firefox for as long as I can remember now. Never had a reason to switch away, and I’m feeling rather vindicated.

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        There was a period some years ago where Firefox and Chrome were leapfrogging each other: Firefox would get slow and crap so I’d switch, then Chrome would get slow and crap and I’d switch back to FF, and so on. I’ve been on Chrome for quite a while it seems, until this development with uBO, well for me the internet is unusable without a shitblocker, so that’s the end of Chrome. Thankfully FF is up to the job.

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        I switched to Chrome probably a decade ago, because at the time it was significantly faster. I switched to chromium at some point and ended up back on Firefox when Google’s password manager stopped working on every browser except Chrome. Firefox is noticeably faster these days and doesn’t crash as often.

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    I don’t understand why all these chrome derivatives and firefox don’t just band together and extend manifest v3 with some vendored standardised extension that addresses the limitations.

    Browsers do that for CSS and JavaScript features already. An extension could just check if the browser supports the “unlimited filters” option and use it if its available.

    I have never researched it but heard that the permissions of manifest v3 are much better for privacy.

    I am in favor of removing manifest v2 if the vendored extension becomes a reality.

    Browsers already have too much complexity, lines of code and feature creep.

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        From what I understand, the limit on the lists is not the only problem with it - my main concerns are a) lists only being able to update together with the extension itself and b) some features apparently being fundamentally disallowed, like the element picker I am dependent on.

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    the company said it would start turning off Manifest V2 extensions

    …in time for Black Friday & the holiday sales?