23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a “good person or an equally good and bad person” or “a bad person who did some good things,” data from YouGov showed.
What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.
Anyone who said otherwise doesn’t understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness
That’s a pretty wild interpretation of the question. It seems pretty clear the question is asking about opinion of his public acts.
How is thst clear???
Because being nice to a dog is not comparable with murdering 17 million people.
Do you know the definition of “all”?
There’s no mention of “all bad” in the actual poll or YouGov analysis. That’s just something that website added to drive traffic.
What a terrible question. He was an awful person but obviously nobody is all bad.
The more nuanced data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf
I was hoping that the ‘not all bad’ would be almost all of it. Unfortunately while it was half of it, a full half said Hitler was as good a guy as he was a bad guy, with an equal number responding unsure, which is likely leaning toward I don’t want to give a socially unacceptable answer.
There is literally nothing I can think of that would make him good in any isolated field. For a long time people held the believe that he was pro environment and animal rights. But he also killed his own dog. People also say that he had a special aura around him. That he was very charming. But those people were likely like trump supporters today. My great grandmother actually got to see him before she fled Germany. She said that there was nothing particularly interesting about him except for the way he speaks maybe.
The question is still to vague. Obviously all of his politics were the worst. But the way it’s phrased, you’d kinda have to agree he wasn’t ALL bad if, for example, he made a pretty tasty pasta sauce. Like. Not that it’d be relevant. It’s the vagueness of the question that I’m critiquing. Maybe I’m just having an autism moment.
Nah, it’s deliberately formulated so it can be pulled out of context, misrepresented and cause outrage. And it works.
Depends on how pedantic one wants to be.
No it doesn’t.
Well I can’t think of any good qualities that actually mattered.
That’s the point. He was objectively all bad.
He was vegetarian (loaded topic, I know but probably gets more support than 20%) and loved dogs, for example.
He wasn’t, it’s well documented he wasn’t vegetarian this was spread as anti vegetarian propegand.
Oh yeah? Care to share some links for that claim? Since Wikipedia has a whole article about Hitler being vegetarian. Apparently, he wasn’t super strict about it but he identified as one and the article also quotes newspaper articles of the time. I’d assume “anti-vegetarian propaganda” is a more modern thing.
He only has one redeeming quality: killing Hitler.
Yeah, but that can’t possibly be true - which we ofc all know it can’t be, yet what you said is a very standard thing to say.
(Even “killing Hitler” was at that point of no good consequence - but “he” (?) would have been a hero if he killed Hitler at least one year sooner … but also max about 22 years earlier … so he completely missed the window on that “one redeeming quality” as well … so that whole thing is just a nonsense saying.)
He also prevented his capture and his prosecuting.
“Saved him from prosecution.”
(Or a lifetime of cozy government admin job in USA somewhere :D.)
/j
That’s for genocidial scientists though!
but also he killed the guy who killed hitler
Even without or beyond judging the person, it’s the actions, results, and consequences of those actions too.
Which is even more complex, but important for understanding the context.
But it’s def really important to avoid black & white (wrongful) memefication, bcs suddenly the memetic value (the “idea” that the image of Hitler represents to masses on average) is vastly corrupted & serves other purposes.
Judging by the latest election, the number seams a lot higher, more like three in five
My thoughts exactly. Wait though, actually that is the fault of Democrats, somehow. I’ll get back to you on how
One in five do not think Hitler was all bad. Two in five think he was better than a lady who laughs sometimes.
And the idiots that didn’t bother to vote, accepted this outcome
Say what want- I certainly do- Hitler did at least one good thing.
(he offed himself. )
(now if only the OrangeWish Fuhrer would do the same.)
Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.
There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.
In case you don’t remember, what we’re talking about here:
12 million people EXTERMINATED like they’re vermin before we get into leveling cities like bombing of Brittain or finally, the brutal war casualties themselves.
People forgot and got gaslit. They said I was nuts for ranting about forgetting for decades.
Don’t gotta burn the books just remove em while arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells…
I mean he did kill Hitler, that’s got to count for something.
I mean he was right about some things. Course extremely few people are wrong about those things but every now and then simple arithmetic trips people up
Well now he’s going to be president.
He did promise the masses a family land and a job. The same thing that every politician ever has promised.
Fools never see evil until its at their door.
Point of vampires is to never invite evil in
They see the evil but think it will be to their advantage because they aren’t like “those people.”
Ok, I get it, but we really should avoid looking at things/people like Adolfy as black or white - that just makes it a meme & loses actual historical/lecture value.
With Hitler being a one-dimensional idea/meme/brand instead of a human (supported by humans with rational human causes) I’m afraid we are doomed to repeat the same cycle of mistakes.
What I’m saying is that instead of education we have strong propaganda (after a specific date) that taught us this Hitler brand was just & only bad, like it was a spontaneous event. Instead of a full person & a nation (again full of actual people) with voting rights in irl situations.
And propaganda isn’t free, it’s financially fueled, which means it wants something in return.When you look into Hitler with a kind of Devil’s Advocate-ish no pre-bias approach, certainly some good ideas. Was for workers, abortion, prostitution, national healthcare, good minimum wages, women’s rights,… But there’s just some… just a few… a handful, if you will, that were maybe…maaaybe what could be considered psychopathic monstrously batshit insane ideas.
But, hey, plenty of people love the Christian god, and Hitler is somewhere between that guy and a Powerpuff girl, so no surprises for me.
The power of charisma over those apathetic to self-thinking.
It has just happened. The liberty aura surrounding America has been broken.
After last night, you don’t have to prove we’re dumb bastards to me.
Definitely a lot more than that based on this election.
