The left endlessly quibbling with each other with definitely not get us there or anywhere. Your beef is with the idiotic trump voters, not people further left than Kamala
Well if you want anything to get better you need to find common ground with those people and have a united front against facism. Even if you don’t like or agree with them.
The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.
I’m not saying this is the correct approach or they did the right thing here. But the varying degrees of left constantly arguing with each other creates more and more room for far right fascists to trample us. You don’t have to agree with them, but you do need to organize with them to make any real change.
It’s that, or yell into the Lemmy void ineffectually at people who are closer aligned to you than the actual problem.
The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.
I hear this all the time on lemmy and reddit and other lefty bubble media despite seeing all of the time in reality that progressive candidates aren’t very popular.
Harris ran as a strong progressive in 2020 and she was amongst the first candidates to exit that race. Bernie lost in a head to head matchup with a complete centrist, and Biden had way more people vote for him in the general than Harris did.
I voted for Bernie in 2020. People sat that primary out just like they sat out 2024 apparently. If there’s all this massive support for progressive politicians in this country, I’d like to see some evidence of it.
Sounds great, where exactly is this thriving community? Grand Delusions, MI?
The left endlessly quibbling with each other with definitely not get us there or anywhere. Your beef is with the idiotic trump voters, not people further left than Kamala
My beef is with purported leftists online that did their damnedest to dissuade people from voting at all.
Well if you want anything to get better you need to find common ground with those people and have a united front against facism. Even if you don’t like or agree with them.
The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.
I’m not saying this is the correct approach or they did the right thing here. But the varying degrees of left constantly arguing with each other creates more and more room for far right fascists to trample us. You don’t have to agree with them, but you do need to organize with them to make any real change.
It’s that, or yell into the Lemmy void ineffectually at people who are closer aligned to you than the actual problem.
I hear this all the time on lemmy and reddit and other lefty bubble media despite seeing all of the time in reality that progressive candidates aren’t very popular.
Harris ran as a strong progressive in 2020 and she was amongst the first candidates to exit that race. Bernie lost in a head to head matchup with a complete centrist, and Biden had way more people vote for him in the general than Harris did.
I voted for Bernie in 2020. People sat that primary out just like they sat out 2024 apparently. If there’s all this massive support for progressive politicians in this country, I’d like to see some evidence of it.