• Etterra@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Easily. Trump would be worse, and any vote not for Kamala is effectively a vote for Trump. If you think otherwise you are deluding yourself.

  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    No amount of endorsement or support will ever stop the democrats from shitting on bernie. Bernie doesn’t even want to replace capitalism, he wants to save capitalism from itself. But even that is way over the line for blue conservatives.

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      Bernie doesn’t even want to replace capitalism, he wants to save capitalism from itself.

      Roosevelt style liberalism only works when you have a full blown leftist movement to triangulate against. Sanders doesn’t have anything like that to leverage. There is not Eugene Debbs running from prison with a million voters backing him up.

      Of course, it should be noted how much Harris lags Dems in every swing state. He’s really hauling dead weight here. And it’s not helping his own popularity.

  • VintageTech@sh.itjust.works
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    It is of my opinion that individuals that don’t vote in the upcoming election are complacent to the atrocities occuring.

    I feel that this occupation is just repeating every few years since '87.

  • SeattleRain@lemmy.world
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    Stand against genocide by compromising on genocide! Trust me bro, you don’t understand politics like I do.

    When will Dems give up this elitist gas lighting. It’s starting to get embarrassing.

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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      Normally anybody who says “you’ve only got two choices” is an idiot.

      Or, they could be describing a democracy crippled by first past the post:

      Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

      Watch the video, it’s six minutes, fun, informative, and changes things. It’s so central that without this video’s info as the centerpiece of the discussion, the discussion really is not happening. We need ranked choice to get third parties.

    • rmuk@feddit.uk
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      The phrase “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” was coined to mock the sort asanine bullshit that grifters spouted, and eventually those same grifters started to use it unironically and without any self-awareness.

      Interesting to see “trust me bro” get the same treatment.

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        Are the Trump supporters in the room with us now? Is the entire UN assembly grifters. Liberals are so disgusting, children are being slaughtered an masse by my tax dollars but all you care about is how Trump will make you personally uncomfortable

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          No, I care that Trump will make more of my tax dollars go into the children slaughtering enterprise.

          You’re the one arguing about not doing something because it makes you uncomfortable, not anyone else here.

  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    AOC had a similar response on Pod Save America.

    You win political influence by being a crucial part of a win. You lose political influence if your political opponents are in office. The best chance to have your voice heard on Israel is being a crucial part of a Harris win.

    That is the calculation.

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        And your calculations are you get off of losing and even people who agree with you on almost everything aren’t good enough to stop you from trying to lose more influence.

    • meep_launcher@lemm.ee
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      Yep.

      I would recommend folks watch this 20 minute video on Rules for Rulers from CGP Grey.

      Despots, Presidents, CEOs, Deans, Homeowners Association Presidents, the guy who runs the open mic- at the end of the day they have to follow the same rules to maintain their power. The zero’th rule in the video is “without power, you affect nothing”.

      I’m voting for Kamala, and I’m voting down ballot for any pro-palestine candidate. I want to send the message that in order to get reelected, she will need to change her stance.

      When I see people not voting out of protest, they are giving their opposition the influence over their elected officials. Remember, they work for you, and voting is how you let them know what you want.

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    This is what thinking people do, given the cureent choice. Good on Bernie! Shame on the narrow minded twits.

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      Don’t forget about all the low level non violent drug offenders she shoveled into the CDCR back in her persecutor days.

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    I hope you see your mum burned with white phosphorus, since your essentially voting for it to happen to other people. Imagine the delicate smell of the flesh of the woman you love burning while she desperetely trying to get it off her. But this shit is like napalm she cannot do anything.

    That is what happens to people in the middle east. As an american, you are complicit with this shit. Your favorite genocider is complicit with this shit. I hope you gets trialed for conspiracy to commit genocide. And executed.

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      LOL could you imagine if being from a country actually made you complicit in the actions of it’s government? Edgelord child shit right here.

      Extremists like yourself are exactly the type of people causing problems in the middle east. You just called for the deaths or Americans for voting.

      I hope you live long enough to learn the error of your ways.

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    Honestly wish we could’ve had Pete Buttigieg running still. Already voted for Kamala in a red state, but honestly hope she stops cozing up to the Cheneys and Israel. We need to focus on infrastructure, housing, and healthcare more than any other issue as they are the basic necessities everyone needs!

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      Because when it’s 1 country doing it to another it’s both a war and a genocide. If it’s a country doing it to their own citizens it’s just a genocide. Pretty simple really. Isreal declared war.

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    If the last year told me something, it’s that america is a genocidal country. I already knew, but I thought nowadays people had more heart and didn’t care more about americans life first.

    Yes, Trump is “worst”. Calling Netanyahu to ditch ceasefire effort is conspiracy to commit genocide. It’s a capital offense.

    Sending Netanyahu weapons, like the dems administration did for the last year, is also conspiracy to commit genocide. It’s still a capital offense.

    Vote for whoever you want. I am sad for you guys, really. You are bamboozled into sacrificing foreigners for your own security. You are both victims and complicit with this. You can whine about how the other side is worst. The truth is you are voting for genocide, and your heart knows.