• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    I see. You don’t know what the vice president’s job is or what her powers are. This all makes sense now. I suggest you look up the job. It doesn’t involve either setting or implementing policy.

    Either you skipped basic high school civics or you are not American. Either way, I would recommend knowing what the vice president is and is not able to do.

    I will give you a hint though: the vice president has exactly two jobs, neither of which involve setting policy on Israel in any way. I’ll leave it up to you to learn more, but something tells me you won’t.

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      Goebbles wasn’t the one who decided to invade France so his hands are clean, huh?

      Despite your condescention, I do fully understand that the VP’s formal powers don’t involve setting foreign policy. I have never claimed this so it’s purely a strawman. What I have said is that it’s possible to predict, with reasonable confidence, what Harris is going to do, based on the actions of the administration she’s a part of and based on her public statements. You think that all of her statements on the issue are lies, and that she’s in stark disagreement with Biden on the issue but can’t do anything about it because her role is extremely limited, which you’re saying she also lies about, and all of it’s based on nothing. Well, actually, it’s quite clear what it’s based on, it’s based on what you want to be true, regardless of evidence or reason.

      If you’re desperate enough to play that card, to disavow Biden and claim that Kamala’s role is extremely limited to only her formal duties, then I have to assume you’re running out of room to retreat to. You’re already playing the “not an American” card as well, which is always a sign that you can’t respond to what I’m saying so you have nothing left but to undermine my credibility.

      The “hands are tied” excuse is so thin at this point that I don’t know how anyone can take is seriously, other than pure cope.

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        The only “card” I have played is that we can’t know whether or not her Israel policy will differ from Biden’s just because she isn’t going against him right now.

        You’re the one here who seems to have some sort of crystal ball so you can know what is going to happen with certainty, not me.

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          “All I’m saying is that the ball might roll up the hill when we release it, we just don’t know. You’re the one who seems to have some sort of crystal ball so you can know what’s going to happen with certainty, not me.”

          We can predict that the ball is going to roll downhill because we have evidence and reason to support the idea, and we know Kamala’s on board with Biden’s policies in the same way. You don’t need a crystal ball when people outright say that they’re going to keep supporting what they’ve always supported.

          Liberals will reject the entire concept of inductive inference before accepting that their favorite genocidaire might not be perfect, apparently. Absolutely bonkers.

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            Why are you under the bizarre impression that anyone here, myself included, thinks Kamala Harris is perfect?

            Believe it or not, we aren’t voting so we’ll get a pony.

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              Because you will go to any lengths and adopt any position to defend her, no matter how absurd.

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                Oh, is that what FlyingSquid does? I had no idea. In fact, I thought that wasn’t true about them at all.

                Please tell me more about FlyingSquid.

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                  I don’t know anything about you aside from what you posted, which clearly demonstrates that you’ll adopt completely absurd positions to defend Harris.

                  But why don’t you tell me more about myself, since you said I either wasn’t an American or skipped high school civics? You seem to have knowledge about me that’s unrelated to anything I posted, while the reverse isn’t true.

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                    Because you will go to any lengths and adopt any position to defend her, no matter how absurd.

                    I don’t know anything about you aside from what you posted, which clearly demonstrates that you’ll adopt completely absurd positions to defend Harris.

                    You know how to use the search function in Lemmy, I assume. Please find me defending Harris’ position on fracking and immigration.

                    It should take you a few minutes, but I’ll give you an hour.

                    Unless you want to admit right now that you’re lying about me.

                    Especially when I didn’t even defend her position on Israel.