Some reason… I think its money.
Shocking. A company mistreats the people purchasing their game like crap with a micro transaction for “better audio quality”. I really hope this bites them in the ass.
Shocking… A company mistreats the people purchasing their game like crap with a micro transaction for “better audio quality”. I really hope this bites them in the ass.
As an audiophile myself, I would not buy this. What the hell does head shape or ears have to do with it? I have my perfect home audio setup set up the exact way I like it. Everyone else can polish a game with good audio, I’m not paying extra for one game to have what everyone else does out of the box. If I’m spending more on audio quality, I’m buying hardware, not some weird dlc
If this was like a Dolby codec thing where it was like “hey we have to pay for the license but not everyone needs it” then fine that makes sense, the license costs money but 99% of players won’t care. But it doesn’t sound like that’s what’s is happening
If this was like a Dolby codec thing where it was like “hey we have to pay for the license but not everyone needs it” then fine that makes sense, the license costs money but 99% of players won’t care. But it doesn’t sound like that’s what’s is happening
This I could understand as well, but they’re just testing the waters and this is, Oblivion: Horse Armor DLC, again. Even funnier, it seems my remarks pissed off a few of their marketing shills.
yeah the only thing I could possibly compare it to is how Windows 10/11 did not include the HEVC codec in Windows and instead you had to pay $3 or something for a copy of the license on their store to play HEVC on Windows. To me, that made sense. <5% of users would ever use HEVC directly on their machine - why include a mandatory license across all versions of windows out of the box? Atmos too is like that I believe.
This is just some weird gimmick. Measuring my head? For what? Makes no sense.
Balatro is like, $10 and available on my phone tho-…
Before I read the article I just assumed that the developers put uncompressed audio files into a DLC, in order to both reduce filesize of the game and provide people that car about audio a better experience.
But actually its just an extra charge for spatial audio for some reason. Who will even actually buy this? I wonder if this is a test to see if it is financially valuable to keep in the game engine (spoiler alert, most people do not care about this and wont pay extra for it).
I care a lot about audio and that’s why I don’t use spatial. Stereo all the way with a good pair of headphones, or better yet, a really nice stereo monitor setup.
Then again, audio is also a drop in the bucket of why I don’t care for COD games lately. The sound is often weird, and the hit marker sounds too much like a cash register, which reminds me what COD games are really about - in case I forgot about the clowns and gorillas running around for a moment.
Proper spatial audio, ie not the DSP effect that upconverts stereo, but something like Atmos or DTS:X that’s sending object based audio to an arbitrary number of speakers, does sound better to me on headphones in the few games that support it. The only game where use it regularly that I can think of is MSFS, but it does sound better than headphone stereo. You do have to pay Dolby to use it, or buy headphones that come with it, however. Sounds best on my 5.1 home theater, but also does a good job with binaural headphone output.
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“For some reason”? Greed. That is the exact reason.
“Because fuck you, give me money” - AJ
“For some reason.” Money. The reason is money.
This isn’t even the first game to do it, and you can get most of the way there with EQ.
Shocking. A company mistreats the people purchasing their game like crap with a micro transaction for “better audio quality”. I really hope this bites them in the ass.
I think you just outed your alt.
I don’t get it, am I missing something?
They posted the same reply from 2 different accounts. And it doesn’t appear to be one of those bots that copies replies and reposts them.
Isn’t that just a glitch? I think I had this before when I repeatedly clicked post on a bad internet and it posted twice.
Exactly. With the constant Lemmy server hacks this startrek.website account rarely works anymore. But someone’s paranoid and shown he’s got 7 alts lol. Jfc, irony much?
Lol and I don’t understand the logic either, why would someone post the exact same comment twice from different accounts. I kinda agree that there’s no way 9 different people down voted your comment for an obvious glitch, maybe someone has a lot of time to hate.
The same exact reply was posted twice from the same account and once from a different account with less punctuation. So I assumed they posted once and it didn’t look like it worked (but did), they tried again and it didn’t look like it worked (but did) so they logged out and back in to try again, except it logged into and posted from a different account.
¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ I’ve done it when my connection is being crappy.
I think you just outed your alt.
Greedy corpos aside, going back to BO1 the audio design was fantastic; everything from the subtle crunch of a boot on gravel to the clack of reloading a gun. Pure ear candy (except for maybe the crazy over-dramatic melee sound). BO 2-5 were good too in terms of sfx but nowhere near 1. I feel like that era had a special attention to detail to audio that modern games don’t care to emulate. Maybe they will with 6; either way microtransactions suck and I’ll stick to playing the older COD games for this very reason
I think the audio detail was so high because it helped to sell the realism of the game. Go back and play those early games and they don’t look nearly as good as my brain remembers, but the audio helped to fill in the lack of gravel looking texture and leaves tussling sounds in bushes that had two twigs on them.
I played BO Cold War a few years ago, and was very disappointed in both sounds and visuals. It just wasn’t a well-made game on the technical level. The fire in a Vietnam flashback location looked like something from the 90s, a 2D model that was rotating to where I was watching it from. A rip-off for a full priced AAA game.
This was the last COD game I tried, I don’t bother anymore with the franchise.
Greed. That reason is greed.
Fun (probably) fact. Warzone players complained almost constantly about the lack of audio quality. It was an issue that only got worse with each “season”. So now that this happens, I can see why.
“Hey players, you complained and we listened! Now pay the fuck up!”
a general setting thats available to everyone, and a paid version of that same setting but customized to your individual ears seems pretty reasonable to me actually
No. The game is paid. It should come with all available settings. This is just one step away from studios hiding HD textures behind paywalls.
And this line of thinking is what let’s them get away with it.
Didn’t someone already do something like that? Was it Bethesda or Ubisoft that locked 4k textures behind pay wall?
Bethesda brought HD texture packs for Skyrim and Fallout, yes. But they are free DLCs and came out several years after release. Bethesda did a paid modding shop.
But this is a feature that other games just have, that’s paid, on a preorder full price AAA game that’s already more expensive than other games.
Stop trying to compare, this is a whole new precedent of greed and mtx.
Did you not read the entire comment? I said behind a pay wall as in paid DLC. Sorry for having a bad memory I guess.
This game costs 80€. No other game in the market costs as high as that for a base edition. You’re claiming that a 80€ game offering a 20€ subscription to a feature every other game that offers it has it for free, is a reasonable thing.
Some people are really delirious…
Tbh I don’t know any other game that allows personal HRTF customization other than the PS5 presets
Steam needs an anti-wishlist so I remember not to buy it when it’s on sale for $1 ten years from now 😅
Can’t you hide games?
Oh true, I forgot about that feature.
PSA: you can also block publishers (and I presume developers too)
Except that’ll never work with COD. They almost never go on sale, and are still sold at full retail price years down the line. Hell, if you go to buy the original Modern Warfare from like 2007, it’ll STILL be $60!!!
It was on sale for 9,99 just a few weeks ago.
That’s still pretty expensive for a 17 year old game though.
That’s what the ignore option is for. I just wish I could do it for entire companies.
for some reason
It’s called price discrimination.
If there are multiple groups of potential purchasers, but have different levels of willingness to pay, if you can identify some characteristic of people willing to pay more, then you can create a version of the product that targets that characteristic and this the group.
Price discrimination (“differential pricing”,[1][2] “equity pricing”, “preferential pricing”,[3] “dual pricing”,[4] “tiered pricing”,[5] and “surveillance pricing”[6]) is a microeconomic pricing strategy where identical or largely similar goods or services are sold at different prices by the same provider to different buyers based on which market segment they are perceived to be part of.[7][8][2] Price discrimination is distinguished from product differentiation by the difference in production cost for the differently priced products involved in the latter strategy.[2] Price discrimination essentially relies on the variation in customers’ willingness to pay[8][2][4] and in the elasticity of their demand. For price discrimination to succeed, a seller must have market power, such as a dominant market share, product uniqueness, sole pricing power, etc.[9]
- “Product versioning”[8][16] or simply “versioning” (or “second-degree” price differentiation) — offering a product line[13] by creating slightly differentiated products for the purpose of price differentiation,[8][16] i.e. a vertical product line.[17] Another name given to versioning is “menu pricing”.[14][18]
In this case, you’re going to have something like a group of “value customers” who care a lot about how much they need to spend on the game. And then you’re going to have “premium customers” who aren’t too fussed about what they pay, but want the very fanciest experience.
If you had just one version, sold the game at the “value customer” price, then you’d lose out on what the “premium customer” would pay. If you sold it at the “premium customer” price, then you’d have a bunch of “value customers” for whom the game would no longer be a worthwhile purchase, who wouldn’t buy the game, and you’d lose the sales to them. But by selling it at multiple prices, you can optimize for both groups.
I think most people playing video games are familiar with the phenomenon.
As a recent example Dragon Ball Sparking Zero has versions for: au$115, au$160, au$180, or au$390.
Au $115 is around $76 usd
FYI
It pleases me when I use a service at a low price tier with the knowledge my usage is being subsidized by those willing to pay more for features I deem unnecessary.
It stinks when the basic tier just doesn’t cut it. But overall I’d probably rather have power users subsidize things.
It starts with increasing price for specific customer > next decrease the normal features for regular customer > add the same feature for extra paying customers > brain wash people into believing its normal and who are protesting against it are cheap > rinse and repeat
In before: “Dude, you don’t need high res textures or better audio. I play on lowest setting anyways.”
