Activists in swing Michigan county are alarmed by Hispanic voters backing Trump despite his anti-immigrant rhetoric

Dan Soza has seen the harsh realities of Donald Trump’s immigration policies up close and so he is alarmed that many Latino voters in Saginaw, Michigan, do not take seriously the former US president’s threats of mass deportations.

As a child welfare officer in Saginaw, Soza places young unaccompanied refugees in foster families and watched the Trump administration’s separation of children from their parents at the Mexican border in 2018 with alarm. He said the cruelty of that policy, and the former president’s threats against refugees legally in the US, should serve as a warning that Trump might do what he says.

“A lot of people who are Latino or Hispanic – whether it be in Saginaw, Michigan, or in the country – when they hear him say those things, they don’t think he’s talking about them,” said Soza.

What really worries me is that people don’t remember their history. This has happened before. We’ve seen mass deportations before and when it happened American citizens were deported.”


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    • Fuck_Team@lemmy.one
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      18 days ago

      The article actually says the Catholicism in Latinos is decreasing but Evangelical Christianity is rising. If that’s the case then Evangelical Christianity seems to be more of the cause

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    He’s absolutely talking about all of us, no matter what our citizenship status is. That lady and all those who support him will be the first ones to get shipped the fuck outta here because they already have their addresses and phone numbers. There’s a special place in hell for people that sell out their own kind.

    • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      That’s absolutely not true!

      My wife should be ok, because she’s white! I, otoh, was born in the NY (or, according to Southerners “no, where are you from, REALLY?!?!”) so I’m fucked.

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        I’m Jewish, my daughter is Jewish and queer, and my wife is a librarian, who they want to be able to imprison for lending out the “wrong” books to children.

        Basically we’re all fucked. I’m glad I have dual citizenship with the UK. Getting my wife over is going to be a problem though.

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          Given the details here, it initially sounds like you’ll have issues getting your wife over to the UK because… Checks notes… She’s a librarian lol

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            What part of “my daughter is Jewish and queer” is unclear to you?

            Also, what part of “who they want to be able to imprison for lending out the “wrong” books to children” is unclear to you?

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    18 days ago

    On one hand id love to see the leopard eating their faces, but on the other another 4 years of trump in office and on TV every day make me wanna puke.

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    If only Democrats could figure out what they keep doing wrong to lose support. My guess is it has to do with their corporatocracy vibes.

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      This makes zero sense. If the issue is corporate capture, why the fuck would you vote republican?

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    We’ve seen mass deportations before and when it happened American citizens were deported."

    This is the terrifying reality that these fools don’t realize. Trump’s Schutzstaffel will not care about your legal status. You could be a fourth generation citizen but if your name is even vaguely Hispanic sounding you will not be spared when they start rounding people up. You will be guilty until proven innocent. It’s a serious mistake not to take MAGA at their word when they promise mass deportations.

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    How can Latinos not realize how much Trump hates them? It’s his main topic, how the dirty immigrants are pouring across the border bringing crime and taking American jobs. He and his cronies say it over and over with every speech.

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      Because they got there legally, he’s not talking about them. Except they don’t realise that they’re voting for a world where border patrol will still harass them based on how they look.

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        And by their names and associations in a database somewhere. I bet there are even some cowards that think voting for him will somehow save them. (Spoiler: It won’t, and he’s laughing at these fools helping exterminate them.)

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          Kris Kobach removed Kansas voters from the voters’ roll because they had foreign-sounding names (many hispanic). Sure, he got in trouble for it in court, but it was too late to affect the election results. And Trump later appointed him to his election interference commission.

          They have the database already. Minorities will be targeted regardless of citizenship.

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      Because they’re not immigrants anymore, he’s not talking about them, you see, they’re white now.

      Irish and Italians did something similar for a while.

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      Their Spanish channels are ridiculously overrun with right wing propaganda. My wife is Venezuelan, and it’s crazy the crap her parents believe. And they are sweet, non-hateful people. But they live in a little bubble where all the news fed to them is through a right wing filter, and they don’t believe it because it’s not like they’re watching Fox News or something.

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    Fuck these ladder snatching pricks. These “I got mine so fuck you” mother fuckers. Every single one of them.

    Most Americans today are 4th generation at best. Fuck you if you were halfway decent cared about your dumbass ancestry.com results more then helping the billionaire capitalist fucking pig that made them available to you, the maybe you’d see that these FUCKS raped your ancestors and gaslit you into believing if you pay your taxes you can be one of them. Latinos, you’ll always be brown.

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      Yup and Cubans do this especially in South Florida. The funniest part is when all the cheap labor started to leave the state and all the old condo buildings they had their grandparents in are being kicked out due to special assessments. They now want the government to step in and prevent those special assessments or get them reduced so they can stay on fixed income.

      I would have more empathy if only they had it for others that were not them. Part of the reason why Obama got rid of wet foot dry foot policy for them.

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        Man, it’s been like that in Miami for decades. A super weird dynamic of old guard Cubans clinging to an incredibly outdated view of world politics, and their younger, deeply Capitalist generations who are consumed with enriching themselves.

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      I think the problem is they came from a place where ladder snatching was the default. Their ancestors just a couple generations ago and probably their relatives at home are still dealing with the same levels of open corruption that we’re just seeing here. They were taught and raised to snatch the ladders up. They’re ready to play the game for all it’s worth because they’ve been taught They need to play the game and how to play the game.

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    This is not any more weird than literally anyone supporting him. They’re all voting aggressively against their own self-interests.

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    It doesn’t matter if he’s talking about you or not. He’s talking about it for anyone. That’s a no for me dawg

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    They act like it’s somehow makes no sense for Latinos to support Trump, but let’s be honest: it makes no sense for anyone to support Trump.

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    Thank you to Dan Soza. It’s always good to know there are people that care so deeply about protecting the vulnerable. The fact there are so many sane individuals out there, like Soza and fellow lemmings in this thread, pushing back against the delusion brings a comfort to my soul.

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    Forget “they don’t think he’s talking about them.” They actually really care about the border. Are they brain dead? Trump killed a bipartisan deal over the border for the sake of politics and they are rewarding this behavior. That’s just plain stupidity.