Hi all!
We’re very excited to move to Denmark soon as lifelong Americans. I have a good job lined up, and we’re set on a place to live for a while.
Any advice from people who have done it, looked it up, had friends who have done it, etc? Just in general :)
All round great advice. For a bit more silly one: record yourself opening the window for the first time in Denmark.
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Unless work is helping you out, expect to have difficulties opening up bank account in EU due to FATCA. Lots of banks don’t want to deal with that, so they’ll outright reject Americans.
As others have said, try to learn the language, at least a little. Although I’d say 90% of the population will know English.
Take ferry over to Germany if you want cheaper beer/wine/alc. The Swedes go to Denmark, and Danish go to Germany :).
Q: will you be returning to the US?
They are helping set up a bank account, thankfully.
Yeah, for sure we are leaning in and gonna try to learn Danish. Worst case my wife and I have a secret code language to ourselves in the future :)
We don’t intend to return, but anything could happen in life
Do you speak the local language, if not start getting courses now, even if many person are fluent in english, not everyone will want to speak English. (You know the joke about Parisian who don’t know English if you start talking with them in English, but would switch to a perfect English if you have a slight foreign accent when speaking french)
Expect that even basic stuff won’t work the same way as you’re used too. It’s already an issue when moving between two European countries, even basic stuff like what you can legally find on a lease or how to get health coverage will drastically change.
In southern Europe people are pretty touchy/tactile and an America would feel sexually harrassed, Nordic Europe is the other way around with pretty distant people where an American would pass for way too touchy/friendly
Learn to ride a bike, and expect to walk way more than in the US, also remember that even though winter are milder, Europe is way far up north than the US
It’ll be tempting, but don’t try to drive there.
Hej Frank!
Welcome in advance!
Where are you gonna live? You don’t need to specify city, but perhaps approximate destination? Jylland, Fyn, Sjælland? And which part?
Which line of work?
Indeed, try to learn Danish even though it is a ridiculous language. I believe there are even free courses, although I am not absolutely sure. Here’s a few words to get you started:
Hej/godmorgen/goddav’ = hello/good morning/howdy (last word especially in Jutland) Farvel = goodbye Tak = thank you Velbekomme = you are welcome Undskyld = sorry Undskyld mig = excuse me Ingen problem = no worries Jeg hedder Frank = my names is Frank Godt at møde dig = nice to meet you Vi ses/hav det godt = see you/take care Hav en god dag = have a good day
And remember! Free health care! Free schools and education! Although you will pay higher taxes, lol.
Hope you will enjoy! And feel free to ask questions. I live very near Aarhus in Eastern Jutland.
Ah this is great! We are doing some Danish, and will continue to learn it. We’ll be in Copenhagen, which will make leaning on our English a little easier.
I’m an engineer, and my work will be all in English, which is a great way to start.
I spent ~$8,000 USD on shoulder surgery this year. I can’t wait for healthcare lol
Time to learn a new language, unless you’re moving to Ireland or Malta I guess. Tons of people come to Germany and are shocked when not everyone speaks English.
Anyway, I think you’ll get better answers if you specify a country. The EU is quite diverse, so I don’t think there’s a ton of advice that’ll be true everywhere in the EU.
Tons of people come to Germany and are shocked when not everyone speaks English.
It’s funny, I more often seem to read so many stories of people saying “Finally, I can practice my German with someone!”
And the German is like “I speak English it’s okay.” Lol
I think it’s exactly those stories that give people a false impression when they come here. It’s not that they are false, most of the time you’ll certainly find people who can speak decent English. A tourist probably won’t need any German, but when it comes to living here long-term, dealing with bureaucracy, finding a job or making friends, knowing German is pretty essential.
Most people saying that also are either tourists, or live near a military base, where a lot of the German population know how to speak English. Knowing danke, bitte, and entshuldigung does quite a lot. Wer ist döner is the most essential phrase in German though. Unsure about danish. Probably similar sounding but slightly more English since the closest language to Denmark for quite some time was Anglish.
Malta
Maltese is an awesome language!
The danish people will maybe say a lot of things about us swedes, but don’t believe the lies.
Do not believe this liar. Danes speak the truth.
Denmark isn’t real, it’s a fabrication of big pork to keep us in line. Don’t believe their lies.
Too bad nobody can understand what they are saying
Could a Dane confirm any of this or review it?
Am Danish. This is fairly accurate, a solid 60% of Danish is just random guttural sounds. This documentary however misses that the remainder is 30% raw deadpan sarcasm, and 10% English words pronounced in an awful accent.
To contrast and compare, this is an average modern Swedish television quiz show: https://youtu.be/lzv6ljgwgzs
Frederick,
Thank you very much for this quality review, comment, and link. I’ll have a look this evening.
Euro-fight!
Scandi-fight is even better. All the Danes, Swedes and Norwegians secretly love each other (basically the same people and the same societies) but they’ve made an international sport of dissing each other. It’s like three brothers come home for Christmas.
“Finnish him!”
Think of other topics and questions than work, Americans care too much about work outside of work.
Switch your phone apps to celsius and start your brain switching ASAP.
Knowing what country or region you’re going to would help
Oh switching to metric is a great idea.
Denmark :)
American here, got stationed in Italy for a few years. Learning Celsius was easy with this in mind:
0 freezing
10 cool
20 nice
30 hot
40 swelteringIf you need to do the actual calculation, double the celsius value, subtract the tens digit (i.e. -10%), add 32. For example:
Double it: 20 * 2 = 40
Subtract the tens digit: 40 - 4 = 36
Add 32: 36+32 = 68It’s easier to just remember a few key values and estimate based on those. I know the conversions for every ten degrees Celsius from -10 to 30
Cool!!
Or a “good enough” rough estimate is: double (the Celsius number) + 30
(0 * 2) + 30 = 30F freezing
(10 * 2) + 30 = 50F cool
(20 * 2) + 30 = 70F nice
(30 * 2) + 30 = 90F hot
(40 * 2) + 30 = 110F sweltering
In reverse: subtract 30 (from the Fahrenheit number), and divide by 2
(30F - 30) / 2 = 0 C freezing
(40F - 30) / 2 = 5 C freezing
(50F - 30) / 2 = 10 C cool
(60F - 30) / 2 = 15 C cool
(70F - 30) / 2 = 20 C nice
(80F - 30) / 2 = 25 C nice
(90F - 30) / 2 = 30 C hot
(100F - 30) / 2 = 35 C hot
(110F - 30) / 2 = 40 C sweltering
(120F - 30) / 2 = 45 C start praying
Never met an American who wants to “talk about work” out here. They all prefer to keep their free time work-discussion free.
Take me with you?
Depending on where you’ll live exactly, look up the local train and bus operator. If you’re in a city, chances are, you won’t even need a car most of the time.
Also get ready to install a different suite of apps. WhatsApp is big in europe, although Signal is obviously preferable when possible.
Yeah, I’ll be in Copenhagen. I hope to not own a car at all! Just a bike and public transit
You could finally visit the only real Legoland in Billund of course!
Plus one for taking language lessons. Even if you don’t plan on getting fluent, it will help you settle in a lot more
Don’t bring your gun, also public transport should be good, so using a car might not always be necessary / the best option.
So, do they just issue you a new gun when the plane lands? Is the ammo the same caliber there, or is it all metric?
American 11/32 inch ammo will definitely need to be exchanged for 9mm
No gun, but an axe. The raiding party’s don’t fill themselves afterall.
'Merican here. Y’know (responsibly kept) guns can be a neat unique part of American life, but as dirty and carcinogenic and freaking LOUD as they are, I think I’d rather just get good with a bow, sling, axes, that sorta thing anyway these days. All the fun of hitting a thing with another thing from far away, but without the tinnitus, lead exposure, and expense.
Especially if I could go to a place where crime rates are lower, work/life balance was tilted toward the “life” end, I could walk or bike places, there are trains, accessible education, less fascist subcultures, and maybe if seeing a doctor wasn’t a financial catastrophe even with insurance…
I know everywhere has pros and cons but… Sheesh, between guns and all that?
“CLUNK. Here’s all my hole-punchers, when’s the next plane?” LOL
Plus one for taking language lessons. Even if you don’t plan on getting fluent, it will help you settle in a lot more
In my own experience learning Dutch when living in The Netherlands (were, like in Denmark, almost everybody speaks good English) you learn very little and very slow with formal lessons and a lot very fast in situations were you have to manage with the local language (basically sink or swim).
I spent years living there with only basic Dutch and then ended up in a small company were I was the only non-Dutch person and the meetings were conducted in Dutch and within 1 to 2 months my Dutch language skills had taken a massive leap forward.
I also get similar effects with other languages I speak when I go visit those countries: persist in talking to the locals in the local language and that will push your language knowledge up.
That said, at the very beginning language lessons will give you the basic structure for the language, but for going beyond the basics I find that just being forced to use it yields the fastest improvements.
(Might wanna try to start watching local TV at some point too)
By the way, if the Danish are anything like the Dutch, they’ll pick up from the accent that a person is American and switch to English. Do not follow them! Keep talking in Danish even if it feels like it’s pretty bad and hard to use. When I lived in The Netherlands most of my British acquaintances had really poor dutch speaking skills even after over a decade there because of this effect of people picking up their accent and switching to English.
Getting new friends in Denmark can be difficuelt at first. Many are reserved and needs to thaw up first. Do not expect colleagues to invite you home, if you are ysed to that. However, when people open up it is because they like and respect you. Danes are in general not superficial as Americans often can be. So remember, we are not unfriendly, just different from Americans :) Advise from a 100% Dane.
As a Norwegian: seconded. It’s tough to get real close and personal with Nordic people. We have smaller friend groups and don’t swap out friends often, but that is largely because we are quite loyal. So when you’re in, you’re in to stay.
Lol, and Danes are definitely the most outgoing of the Nordics. I’ve found Danes to be pretty similar in terms of outgoing-ness to people from New England in the US; unlikely to start conversation with complete strangers, but certainly kind once you have that initial connection.
That’s great, I like that a lot. As the commenter below said, sounds like New England to an extent. I’m fine with that and happy with less superficial
