Terror group preventing civilians from evacuating northern Gaza's Jabaliya, according to IDF-released recording where Gazan describes how Hamas members beat them with sticks, forcing them to stay
    • fukhueson@lemmy.worldOP
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      22 days ago

      Wow, that was the entire conversation? Where was I getting this idea that you were claiming Israel would not let refugees leave to Egypt?

      Oh, that was exactly what you said… “Because they don’t want anyone to leave.”

      And yes, I am. Because I read what you said.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        Israel would not let refugees leave to Egypt

        Israel controls the border between Gaza and Egypt.

        Why are there not refugees crossing that border? If it isn’t Israel, please explain who is stopping refugees from crossing the border.

        • fukhueson@lemmy.worldOP
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          22 days ago

          I’m supposed to provide proof for my response to your claim, yet you aren’t required to source your original claim of “Because they don’t want anyone to leave”? No no :)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

          When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim, especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.[1] This is also stated in Hitchens’s razor, which declares that “what may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.” Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” – which is known as the Sagan standard.[2]

          …

          One way in which one would attempt to shift the burden of proof is by committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. It occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proven true.[8][9]

          I’m not going to be engaging with you now, or in the future. This is extraordinarily bad form, and a huge waste of time.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            22 days ago

            Dude, this is basic logic. One party controls the border, therefore that party is the one that has the power to let people in and out.

            People aren’t being let out.