• Toneswirly@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    “Objectively” is such a fun way to describe what will always be a divisive position of power. Was any one president considered objectively good?

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      Grant’s administration was deeply imperfect - corruption ran deep - but he eradicated the first KKK. I feel like that’s an objective good, and anyone who disagrees isn’t worth listening to.

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      1 month ago

      Well, Al Gore was voted president, and he didn’t make any objectionable decisions while George Bush was living in his house and working in his office.

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          You can thank Roger Stone for that, if you’d forgotten or if you were too young at the time to care or realize wtf was going on.

          I was 15 in 2000…I fell into the latter camp.

          He was one of the organizers of the Brooks Brothers Riot, which accomplished its goal of shutting down the Florida recount.

          Obviously, since this didn’t happen yet, Trump didn’t know about this when Stone compelled him to run in the reform party that year (when he dropped out in February). The two of them worked together for a long time prior, Stone was a lobbyist for him.

          But I’m sure Trump knew about that when Stone became a campaign consultant in 2016. That was also when he got involved with the person selling Hillary’s “derogatory financial info”, as the Mueller investigation revealed.

          Didn’t matter tho. Trump commuted his sentence and pardoned him.

          After all, the election was coming up. Stone already helped Bush secure a seat in 2000, and dug up dirt that cost Hillary the election. Dirt that wasn’t even really that dirty, just needed good spin.

          And of course, he was instrumental in planning J6.

          Dude is literally the most treacherous of treasonists. Comic book levels of villainy. No doubt he’s got something queued up to “ensure” a Republican “win” this year. He was primarily responsible for the last two Republican “wins” and really wants that third.