Looks like the source changed the headline on you:
“J.D. Vance Lashes Out After the Smallest Fact-Check in V.P. Debate”
If you could update yours, that would be great!
It has been updated now
What was it originally?
J.D. Vance Freaks Out Over the Slightest Pushback in V.P. Debate
Snowflake
I think the reports of Vance having “won” are greatly overstated:
42% vs. 41%? That’s well within the margin of error, LOL.
What are your numbers supposed to mean? From your article:
Prior to the debate, a New York Times/Siena College poll released Sept. 28 found Midwestern voters prefer Walz to Vance: Walz was viewed favorably by 44% of voters and unfavorably by 41%, while Vance was viewed favorably by 42% of voters and unfavorably by 48%.
So 44% like Walz, 42% like Vance. 41% dislike Walz, 48% dislike Vance. Comparing 42 and 41 is comparing two different things
42%. That’s how many debate viewers in the CBS poll thought Vance was the winner of the debate, compared to 41% who thought Walz won. Seventeen percent of viewers said the debate ended in a tie.
Fascists are easily startled but they’ll soon be back. And in greater numbers.
Lol I’m loving all the star wars references tonight.
Actually amazing. How is this the timeline we’re in
No. Republicans loved that Vance pushed back here.
This is not the win yall think it is.
Walz did fine. Not as good as JD Vance but I at least wasn’t expecting Walz to do as well as JD Vance. Yall got the election if you keep the topic on Trump. Don’t get distracted here, especially when its an L or at best, stalemate on your image.
What specifically do you feel Walz didn’t do as well as Vance?
Convince people. The quick polls are already in.
Walz is fine though. I don’t remember any mistake honestly. But the numbers are in already. We can say solidly that JD Vance did better.
22 people is hardly a survey for a national election, and is a total nonanswer. I’m asking you what you think Vance did better.
Also, what is the source of that image?
From the fonts I’d guess NYT
Edit: other comments are saying Washington Post
Image, body language. Looking at the camera with the “Marine Stare” to show off with body language his disdain for a particular topic or response from Walz (while Walz’s body language was not nearly as effective at showing JD Vance’s weird shit).
If you’re not aware of what “Republicans see as weird”, well… guess what?? JD Vance is, and he’s able to rally people with just a glance. It was clearly effective. Though perhaps in a “deeper” political look / visual communication cue rather than actual talking.
JD Vance is the complete package. Walz is well spoken but not quite as emoted and not as good of a reaction to JD Vance.
Don’t get me wrong, JD Vance is fucking nuts. But if you’re not seeing JD Vance’s good performance here, you’re at risk at underestimating the scope of the problem here.
Because the point of an election is to determine who has the best body language. You heard it here first folks
Trump looks like he’s about to fall forward at all times, and his blank, geriatric, demented stare is honestly a spectical at this point, paired with his constant word salad.
I guess that means Kamala wins, folks. Wrap it up, everyone. It’s over. Let’s go home and move on.
You all don’t seem to understand how stupid people vote. Or what’s important to them or most importantly HOW FUCKING MANY OF THEM YHERE ARE.
You jest but half a country are below average intelligence. It’s not outlandish to think that many individuals in that half aren’t really following what is being said or understand it. What they can follow is the visuals. How they look, how they stand, how they move; how they “read”. And a non-trivial number of above average people still judge books by their covers.
I think the point the person above was trying to make is that Vance won the area the majority of people can evaluate and the importance of visuals.
Harris’s body language was far superior to Trump’s. And is part of why she crushed him so completely.
Wow, and I thought your first post was full of maga copium, but damn, this one takes the cake.
Who the actual fuck gives a single wet shit what QTurds have to say?
JD looked and talked like an alien making his first contact with humans. He lacks any charisma, and you can tell he doesn’t actually believe anything he says. And because of that, the moderators asked many times about his stance on almost everything being 180 degrees from when he started the Trump audition.
Also I don’t think Republican = MAGA cult anymore. I also feel 99% of these “undecided” voters at this point are going to vote Trump, and are just reaching for something that they can say is the reason other than racism.
and you can tell he doesn’t actually believe anything he says.
100% agree on this point.
But that’s also not JD Vance’s goal here. JD Vance’s goal is to sanewash Trump. And he accomplished that.
JD looked and talked like an alien making his first contact with humans
I kinda-sorta see where you’re coming from here.
Alas: this is the marine stare. A lot of marines I know do this. I think people in the know are in the know and see JD Vance’s mannerism here as charismatic.
Lefties not wanting to accept JD Vance isn’t existing in reality. He is existing in MAGA reality. Which is incoherent and separate from actuality.
Please, reconcile your fawning fascist fellating with the FACT that he’s the last popular VP candidate in American history. I’m sure it will be an entertaining, if somewhat nauseating read.
Charismatic adjective
- exercising a compelling charm which inspires devotion in others.
I wouldn’t consider staring off while trying to reword your same lie as being charismatic. There is a reason his favorability has been under water the whole time, it isn’t because he was a Marine. I have met Marines, and I have seen former Marines in office that can have a normal conversation, and actually appear to care. JD lacks the ability to converse, and has zero ability to relate with anyone, even MAGA folks.
I know you’re getting downvoted, but I appreciate this analysis. I have autism and don’t pick up on body language
Well, you don’t wanna listen to dragontamer then. The scenes they’re describing happened only in their head.
JD Vance did full 100% politician stance the entire time so I don’t think there’s anything to take from it.
Image, body language. Looking at the camera with the “Marine Stare” to show off with body language his disdain for a particular topic or response from Walz
JD Vance is, and he’s able to rally people with just a glance. It was clearly effective. Though perhaps in a “deeper” political look / visual communication cue rather than actual talking.
JD Vance is the complete package
That’s so damn horny 😄
Are you a couch?
Are you a couch?
This was the exact thought running thru my head as i forced myself through that disgusting fan fiction.
Ah yes, “the numbers”. Are those the same numbers that say Trump has the bigliest rallies? Are they the BEST NUMBERS OF ALL TIME?
Yeah, you might be an idiot if it belive any of that. That’s your right, though. It’s a free country, for now.
This is a fucking Washington Post screenshot.
Holy shit man. Pull your head out of your own ass. Walz did fine, its not a big deal. But JD Vance outperformed. If you don’t see it then you’re fucking blind and you’re ignoring even left-leaning papers like the WashPo.
JD Vance out preformed! Cause I say so!
WashPo, CBS and CNN reports JD Vance won the debate in quick polls of swing state voters post debate.
Cope harder. There is simple truth on this issue and I’ll continue to speak the truth here.
WashPo, CBS, and CNN, the arbiters of truth on all subjective matters. Forgive my ignorance.
No wonder the media is free to fuck up this country.
Oh wow, WaPo? Well, if daddy Bezos says so, I guess it must be true. /s
Just gonna throw it out there that WaPo written negative articles about Amazon many times
That’s right everyone, the Bezos Post is left leaning!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
Yall live in your own fucking reality. I’ll tell you what.
How have you been on Lemmy for a year, and don’t yet know that we fucking hate MBFC?
And who the fuck crowned MBFC the kings of based unbiased-ness?
Oh I see, dispite it being owned by a BILIONAIRE who is opposed to any fundimental change in the status quo, this one website says they are left leaning so no need to consider anything they are left… FFS use your damn brain
They are the hardest, longest and girthiest of numbers.
Newsweek is reporting the opposite, with Walz getting a boost and not Vance.
You didn’t even read the article.
A flash poll conducted by CNN and SSRS after the debate among 574 registered voters who watched the showdown found that 51 percent of respondents said that Vance came out on top, compared to 49 percent who said the same of Walz. The margin of error was +/- 5.3 points.
A CBS News flash poll performed in conjunction with YouGov also showed Vance winning by a slim margin, with 42 percent of 1,630 respondents saying they thought the Ohio senator won the debate, to Walz’s 41 percent. The margin of error was +/- 2.7 points. Seventeen percent of respondents said the debate was a draw.
What you, and your system of copera is doing, is muddying the waters and ignoring JD Vance performance.
Trump dies in a few years, he’s a 78-year-old sickly man. JD Vance is the guy we will likely have to deal with the rest of our lives politically speaking. He’s young and clearly taking charge of the ideology. This is a long term problem (even if Trump is the bigger problem).
Are you really referencing a poll of 22 people lmao
Are you really denying the poll which has now been replicated on CNN and CBS instant polls?
JD Vance won the debate in every reputable flash poll I’ve read this morning. For fucks sake you dumbass, open your eyes and recognize the political challenge before us.
You’d rather muse on irrelevant technicalities than see the actual polls from the electorate. Small polls are in fact statistically sound btw if handled correctly, and the methodology of focusing on undecided voters is the key here. The election is close and we need every vote we can get to stop Trump, and you are blinding yourself to the truth of the situation.
You’re getting emotional over something that doesn’t matter. Only 1% of people changed their views after this debate
JD Vance went +19% on favorability.
Yes he did, which would normally be fantastic except you have to consider where he started.
Again, try to be a bit more level headed. Yes, he did well. Yes, about 1% changed who they are voting for (could be either d/r). People are voting between Harris or Trump. The VP debates just let you get to know the VP candidates a bit more.
Also, I’m not the one downvoting you
Y’all might be brainwashed… Or perhaps you have a brain worm? That’s actually an official, well-documented thing omongst Trump endorsers these days.
Unfortunately it’s not about who was the most honest or had the best ideas. It’s about who was more “convincing” to a “blank slate”. When one person has zero problem saying anything to support their point even if its complete bullshit, it’s easy to be more convincing. I still think debates should happen but it’s sad that the Republicans “win at all costs” mentality elevates quick talkers who will lie to your face and make up disingenuous arguments without a care in the world. Something something about a pig in the mud and wrestling it…
Sorry about all the air quotes but it’s hard to talk about this stuff without them.
Lol sure buddy the guy lying the whole time won now let’s get you to bed.
To be completely fair, I think Vance lying through his teeth lost less red followers than Walz saying expanding Israel’s influence was a necessity lost blue followers.
I’m still never going to vote for another Republican, but that was an absolutely horrible way to start the debate.
Ignorant, lying, coward. Also the way his body shape is leaning: cow-ward
A candidate being mad at a fact check is a massive red flag
It’s a massive red flag but one the right won’t see. Just look at Fox-Legally-Classified-As-Entertainment’s clip on the fact checking, and read the comments. They took this as a sign of bias and think JD Vance won the exchange. The fact that JD Vance spelled out the legal process for them to not be illegal immigrants (iow he was lying) is lost on them.
I hope at least some people realize the gaslighting going on both from trump/vance as well as the media.
People doing this kind of mental gymnastics weren’t ever going to accept that Vance lost the debate.
It’s because (like all authoritarian dildos) he has an ego larger than he deserves and can’t look inward for anything.
And this melting snowflake may actually be our next vice president.
I like my VPs able to take criticism
Given Donny’s general health, this melting snowflake may well be your next president
kind of expected since hes a orangian snd part of that cowards troop
The idea that these putzes whine about being fact-checked. This is where we are at.
And this from the bunch that wear shirts that say things like “fuck your feelings” and “facts don’t care about your feelings”. Then they melt the very second a fact shows up to negate their feelings about their fictions.
“You told me I could tell lies unchecked!”
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