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The best protest is to stop moderating. Lie flat. Let the subreddit go to shit.
Reddit mods are such cucks for power that they cave when it’s threatened to be removed
Many subs did that, so reddit substituted the mods for others that do as they are told.
The dndmemes protests were a pretty incredible thing while they lasted. The mods changed the subreddit to “nsfw” because that disabled most of the monetization. Then Reddit admins told them the subreddit obviously wasn’t really nsfw and to change it to accurately reflect the subreddit content.
…so the mods changed the subreddit rules to allow actual nsfw content and people went nuts. In multiple senses of the term.
Of course “accurately reflecting the subreddit” wasn’t what Reddit really cared about. They wanted to preserve the advertising stream for a popular subreddit, and this did the opposite of that. Reddit admins soon after basically said “remove nsfw content, restore the subreddit to what it used to be, do what we say or we’ll replace you with a mod team of our own choosing”.
Thanks for sharing this I guess I left before all of this happened and I haven’t heard any of it.
Reddit would close the sub for being unmoderated until someone asks to be the new mod
mission accomplished? That has the same effect as making it private, doesn’t it?
Well, the power hungry mod that lost their power wouldn’t be very happy with it and larger communities wouldn’t stay closed very long
A lot of subreddits have done that. The problem is nobody notices…
The problem is that this opens the door to far right bootlickers who a salivating at the idea of turning reddit into an even farther right shithole.
lol no if anything they’ve become far left shitholes.
People tried that.
reddit corporate will remove those mods and ask which other mods want to be super duper awesome and be able to say they moderate another N thousand users per day for zero pay. And people leap at that.
Until the users leave, nothing will happen. In a fucked way, reddit corporate are doing everyone a favor by removing the spineless “We are going to go silent for 24 hours with no real demands or bargaining power” idiocy.
Scabbing for reddit mod clout is utterly wild.
At least you’re not the sucker doing it for free for the shareholders anymore.
I mean… everyone contributing all those super useful posts that everyone thinks are the only authoritative sources of information on the internet are doing exactly that.
Every time you provide some tech support or a bit of advice? You are providing reddit shareholders’ money.
That’s what I did with all mine.
That’s when I knew we lost. When power hungry moderators felt threatened and, instead of standing in solidarity with its users, caved to corporate demands.
“But we’ll be able to still protest. Every Tuesday.”
Hell are those protests still going on? I highly doubt it.
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Harm? That is what would happen to their company if they explained what they meant by “harm”
Mods could just make a filter to remove everything new anyway. The concept of mods being unpaid volunteers means they get to fuck with reddit if they really want. They already had that issue with some subs just starting to allow porn during the first api protest. Sure reddit can just churn through to newer friendlier mods like the first time but they’re not going to be able to crush all the dissent and drama from moves like that.
But actually I think reddit has a bigger problem than protests. They tweaked their algorithm recently and it is going the way of facebook now, I’ve been getting 0 upvote day-old posts shown to me. They’re probably getting more engagement but I don’t think redditors are going to put up with that level of enshittification as easily as other social media where people are locked in by friends and followers.
But the protests made it clear that letting moderators make their communities private at their discretion “could be used to harm Reddit at scale” and that work on this feature was “accelerated” because of the protests.
Because Reddit admins deserved that harm. We’ve handed them all this free data and resource and they decided it was theirs.
“Those who make community protest impossible will make hacks inevitable."
― John F. Kennedy, pretty much
OBEY
Is that the site we all left cuz it’s a turd? Yeah? Don’t care. It’s called principle.
I’m thinking the API protests would have been more effective if y’all just stopped moderating entirely instead of locking down subreddits.
Let the site turn into an absolute cesspool.
I came here to banish reddit but this thing wont leave my feed. I guess I’m going to have to take the time to filter the word.
Reddit is one of the most infiltrated and astroturfed site. I have absolutely no confidence that the leadership are interested in addressing that. When there were suspicions it was anti-US actors, they had to take action because the government would get involved. But we all know that such pressure doesn’t exist for other astroturfing actors, state and private.
When something grows to that size it becomes recognized as a useful tool with which to conduct social engineering. Reddit has been a weapon of information warfare for well over a decade.
Yes, what shocks me most is that there was a small window of time in which media organizations covered Israel’s troll farms on there, but when Russiagate happened they essentially mentioned it only in passing from then on. To me, the subtext of that was Israel gets a pass as it’s not belligerent social engineering.
The Lebanon subreddit might as well be a zionist propaganda reddit.
All the Lebanese got banned?
I got permabanned from reddit because I said to a zionist who accused all Lebanese of blaming all their problems on Israel ‘no, we just blame Israel for what it deserves blame for’ and apparently that constituted a call to violence against a marginalized group.
Meanwhile the amount of genocide justification and thinly veiled threats of genocide almost always go unpunished. Stuff like saying that no one in the world cares for Lebanon except its cuisine and landscape (implying the people can disappear and nothing will be lost) or telling people not to worry about future problems, implying that they will soon entirely annhiliate Lebanon.
This isn’t even just it. Anyone calling out the sheer amount of propagandists or showing how real the Hasbara program is (look it up) will get their posts removed. Even the Syria subreddit is packed with low-effort videos and anti-Lebanese propaganda. For example: Any show of what appears to be crowds of people celebrating is attributed to Syrians celebrating the death of Nasrallah, and any violence happening is automatically attributed to Hezbollah Lebanese (or even Lebanese in general) just attacking Syrians for nothing.
Those videos show no indication of who the people are or what they are doing, and that is how you know it is fake. They also keep making huge claims of Hezbollah conducting massive bombing operations in Syria against random civilians when there is not the slightest shred of evidence to support that, not even news articles or reports from Israeli sources. Just show a bunch of amublance workers and then claim it is a Hezbollah bombing.
It is as depressing as it is disgusting.
Ohh I am well aware of these clowns lol
I did my part prior to existing reddit. So this checks out.
Zionist support among mods is also super strong it is ducking weird… But if you look at media and entertainment, it checks out.
Fedi is one of the few people where people are having these discussions in ernest, this discussion can’t had much else where
Yeah. I got back on reddit with an alternate account and a VPN, the month I spent off kinda cooled down my appetite for that place. I still get a lot of news from it, so technically I don’t need to post as much but… fuck me, I hated zionists before and right now I cannot describe my loathing for those people.
Seeing genocide real time with 100% backed by your government (presume US here tbh) will trigger a taxpayer…
Israel was able to fly under the rader but since oct7, many people really started to learn to what actually happened. and no amount of propaganda can fix that.
me and my homies hate israel… it is an abomination.
so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you’re a leader. but they’re better than the alternative. that’s the whole point.
Protests: a pressure valve to release steam. You gotta let them get out there and march around for a little bit. Let them walk it off. Then proceed to implement the next new tyranny a little bit at a time.
People haven’t been using the alternative, and that’s the problem. Reddit and tech giants have grown complicit. They do not believe people would do it to them, or they think they could survive thousands of people trying to do it to them, if one can then many can.
They’re better than the OLD alternative, which was total boycotting at best, and torches and pitchforks at worst. The NEW alternative is complaining about it for a week or two, then continuing on without making any changes at all. They don’t mind the new alternative.
The only way to win the reddit game is to not play.
Very good Joshua
How about a nice game of Chess?
Launches entire US nuclear arsenal against Russia
Can we launch it against Spez?
I just lost The Game
LOL!
Damn, I hadn’t lost since June
dont worry r/worldnews allwasy ready for the mission.
Are you sure you wrote this correctly? /lh
I’m so glad I have a Reddit alternative now like Lemmy. Every news article I see about some corporate move Reddit makes, it seems further and further removed from the community-driven website I had hoped it would be.
Heil piss baby Spez
It’s amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit’s investors can make more money.
It’s amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit’s investors can make more money.
Well it used to be (when Reddit was FLOSS and Reddit didn’t take communities off the founders who created them, at most they’d close the community) that people saw it as choosing Reddit to host the community instead of creating it somewhere else. However, Reddit has since changed the rules drastically, and essentially taken the communities people created there.
Best response for mods is to move your community somewhere else, and put in an automod rule redirecting people to the new community on Lemmy or whatever. Reddit will probably eventually try to take over and keep competing with your community under the original URL.
I was reading this post recently: https://howtomarketagame.com/2021/11/01/dont-build-your-castle-in-other-peoples-kingdoms/ - I guess it applies to communities equally as much as it applies to anything else.
If all mods quit that’d be perfect. Reddit has shown they’ll replace mods when they actually need to (or want to). But if no regular users wanted to pick it up then they’d have to pay admins to moderate. I don’t think we’ll see it though. There’s always going to be someone who wants it enough who has enough time for whatever reason.
Reddit has shown they’ll replace mods when they actually need to (or want to).
But, their business model doesn’t work unless those mods are working for free. So, while they may replace mods, unless people keep signing up to work for free to help a for-profit company deliver value to its shareholders, eventually it’s going to collapse.
Ideally, it would be because they care for the community they moderate, which I believe is the reason most mods do it.
Then you have creatures like awkwardtheturtle, who knows what motivates them.
I would assume Awkward is motivated by narcissism and/or because they’re a power-hungry freakazoid, but who knows? 🤷
I learned if you Google “fertility doctors who used own sperm”, there isn’t one or two incidents. It’s A LOT.
I don’t understand why anybody would do such a disgusting thing. but it helps me understand narcissism and power hungry behavior.
it’s power. power motivates and corrupts.
There was this one post for a call for mods about “doing a social good for the community”.
Like bro, this is a video game subreddit. And you’re doing it for free, to help another dude get really rich.
