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    This is expanding, by leaps and bounds, the argument in the OP’s image

    So you are ok with Op narrowing down all religions to 6 discreet choices where one is absolute truth but I’m the one with the scope problem?

    You are now introducing a bunch of other things. Unprovable, of course. Seriously, how could you know that being correct about a religious would be "100%

    Well, op declared that one must be correct and therefore the actual initial argument was wrong. Lol how can you blame me for saying religion is unprobable while defending an argument that claims some religion is certainly right without an iota of proof???

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      So you are ok with Op narrowing down all religions to 6 discreet choices

      No one narrowed anything down to 6 discreet choices. I demonstrated a case where it is inconceivable that all people are correct, while at the same time demonstrating it is completely unreasonable to claim that no one can be correct.

      op declared that one must be correct

      At no point did anyone claim one must be correct.

      that claims some religion is certainly right

      The question “why couldn’t it be” is not even remotely equivalent to the claim that “it certainly is.”

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        No one narrowed anything down to 6 discreet choices. I demonstrated a case where it is inconceivable that all people are correct, while at the same time demonstrating it is completely unreasonable to claim that no one can be correct.

        Yes but the validity of that “demonstration” is showing an equivalent scenario, which you did not. If I claim “a bird is a living thing and flies, ergo all living things fly” I would be wrong and even if that line does apply to many living things, it is still a gross generalization.

        All I am saying is that you are arguing a flawed argument with another flawed argument.

        At no point did anyone claim one must be correct.

        Your reduced scenario assumed one must be, otherwise you’d be agreeing with the quote posted by OP

        The question “why couldn’t it be” is not even remotely equivalent to the claim that “it certainly is.”

        I can… but we cannot know if that is the case so we should ALSO not be acting as if it already is right and certain

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          Yes but the validity of that “demonstration” is showing an equivalent scenario

          I used the equivalent logic. I’m demonstrating the logic is wrong, not the conclusion.

          Your reduced scenario assumed one must be

          Nit picky. Change it to a million sided die and 999999 people all choose different answers. One doesn’t have to be true, but it’s still ridiculous to claim they all have to be wrong.

          ALSO not be acting as if it already is right and certain

          I started this whole thing by saying I lack a belief in a god because I see no evidence of one. You gotta shake the black and white thinking. Just because I recognize his logic here is garbage, that doesn’t mean I don’t agree with his conclusions.

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            I used the equivalent logic. I’m demonstrating the logic is wrong, not the conclusion.

            By using a scenario that nowhere near resembles the original claim? that’s the part I disagree with

            Nit picky. Change it to a million sided die and 999999 people all choose different answers. One doesn’t have to be true, but it’s still ridiculous to claim they all have to be wrong.

            OK, 99999 side, no option is correct. How does this disprove the original claim which concluded that “none are correct”?

            You gotta shake the black and white thinking.

            I’m not, my initial criticism of your logic is precisely that we cannot reduce it to a simple right or wrong. Almost everything is more nuanced than that, specially religion

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              By using a scenario that nowhere near resembles the original claim?

              It exactly resembles the logic. Which is the important part. You can argue there is more to it because religious beliefs are much more complicated, and I would agree, but you would also be agreeing with my point that the logic itself is bad.

              How does this disprove the original claim which concluded that “none are correct”?

              ? There is only a 1 in a million chance that noone is correct. To say the only reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong makes no sense because it is almost certainly incorrect.

              I’m not,

              ? Your last argument that I responded to is literally that we shouldnt be acting like a belief is right or certain. Which was also in a chain of you accusing me of saying one must be right.

              This is really going off then rails.