• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Wow, if I ignored everything that was posted outside of Lemmy, I would have thought this was a great game that everyone should be buying.

    Good thing I knew this would flop. Its especially funny considering Outlaws’ marketing campaign was Ubisoft most expensive marketing campaign ever.

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      15 days ago

      The sad part is that it’s a fun game. The company rep and horrible pricing structure set them up for failure. Release this on steam for $60 and I think it would do great. It doesn’t have all the Ubisoft BS like tons of micro transactions or a million map icons. It was a really good direction shift that they just wouldn’t let succeed.

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      15 days ago

      Opposite experience for me. Outside of lemmy, it seems people actually like it. I was destroyed by downvotes for simply suggesting that it’s a nuanced topic to flame a game on its day one release.

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      16 days ago

      I bought it on PS5 and I’m having fun playing it. Sure, it doesn’t do anything new, the gameplay is very familiar and the enemy AI is dumb as rocks, but you get to play in the Star Wars universe, the locations look great and the story so far seems decent enough (although I’m not that far into the game yet).

      Not every meal needs to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.

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        16 days ago

        This is a $70 game with a ‘season pass’ and the ultimate edition is $130. That’s hardly big mac price.

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          16 days ago

          For me it was €79 (gotta love that VAT).

          Still, considering the hours of entertainment I’ll get out of it, the price-per-hour feels reasonable to me compared to other forms of entertainment.

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            16 days ago

            What can I say, value is subjective, but at least to me it’s not what I would describe as Big Mac pricing.

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            16 days ago

            What about compared to other video games?

            Edit: even putting hundreds into rocket league its still a better deal, so how does this game add up to a good deal?

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              If this game takes me 40 hours to complete at a price point of $70 that’s $1.75 an hour to be entertained. That’s not bad value at all IMO. And seeing how I’ll prob take longer doing side missions and such I see that going to under a dollar an hour. Not a ton you can do on a rainy day that will keep you entertained for less than that.

              It seems to line up with a lot of other open world games for me. I’m not saying this is an amazing value, I just don’t see it as a bad value.

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                15 days ago

                Yeah thats fair, although ubisoft tends to slash the price of their games very quickly, but thats not to say its still not worth it now for you.

      • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Not every meal meeds to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.

        I don’t think you really understand what you’re saying because this is an even bigger insult to Outlaws than anything I have ever said about the game.

        Imagine a food served by a restaurant claiming to have 4 Michelin stars (Outlaws is a AAAA game -made up thing just like 4 Michelin stars- afterall) being compared to a Big Mac. That’s hilarious.

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    16 days ago

    Not releasing your new game on the largest game market in the world is a bold choice as well.

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    16 days ago

    In an alternate universe I just got a 10 kill streak with Ahsoka on the Siege of Mandalore map in Battlefront III. Star Wars Eclipse is coming out in a few months, and gameplay demos show that it looks every bit as good as the trailer.

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        16 days ago

        I’d link them for you, but I’m too busy playing the new 501st spinoff of Republic Commando. It’s pretty badass; you customize a squad of troopers and follow them through training on Kamino, through the Clone Wars, and even Order 66 and the Bad Batch era. It’s not just action; there are meaningful story choices you have to make as you struggle with your loyalty to the Republic and General Skywalker, vs the growing realization that something is wrong with the clones. It’s really well-written and voice acted with a mature story.

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          15 days ago

          Have you tried the new Rogue Squadron?

          My favorite addition is the galaxy liberation mode where you support systems to gain their favor and spend that favor for localized support and ship research.

          My Zyphor spec A-Wing has a surprise twin linked rail gun mounted underneath for CAS missions

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      16 days ago

      Do be fair, I think that Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor are some of the best Star Wars games ever made, maybe a tier behind the icons like BF2, Kotor, and Tie Fighter, but not that far and in hindsight I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s up there with them.

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        14 days ago

        I really liked Fallen Order. I kind of forgot about Survivor. Need to make a note to watch for it to be on sale.

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    16 days ago

    I think that’s kind of a shame.

    I don’t care for Ubisofts bland and lazy open world design formula, but SW:O appears to not do a lot of the usual open world BS that they’re known for.

    I only get this from Skillup’s review and he had a host of problems with gameplay, but I also got the sense that this is a game that will be remembered fondly by a subset of the star wars fandom.

    Hopefully the lesson that Ubi learns isn’t “see, we should stick with what works. Another generic open world Assassins Creed RPG-Lite”.

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      15 days ago

      I hurts me how bad SW:O did for that very reason. There’s no XP, there’s no tower in each zone to unlock or whatever. It’s a really good game IMO with a few issues.

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        15 days ago

        It’s just a shame that some of the biggest of those issues appear to be fundamental game mechanics.

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    15 days ago

    Who even invests in ubisoft? If you know anything about games you would know ubisoft is crap company and if you dont know, why would you risk your money to something you have no idea about.

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    16 days ago

    I feel like lukewarm is the best Ubisoft has managed in about a decade now so seems like it should have been within expectations.

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      16 days ago

      I’ve been enjoying Far Cry 3 even with the multiplayer servers shut down. Did they ever make another game that isn’t also Far Cry 3?

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      15 days ago

      The new Prince of Persia roguelike is pretty good, although I’ve hit a wall recently and am too stubborn to look up a walkthrough. Lots of fun otherwise, though.

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        16 days ago

        Yes, I believe all the UbiArt games did. I would defend all three of those and wish they didn’t slip into the wind

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        16 days ago

        This was a beautiful game. I think it was also one of the only games I have ever accidentally 100% completed.

    • LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      Phoenix rising was a pretty good ancient Greek BOTW experience. Best game they put out in 2020. Better thrash Valhalla or WD Legion

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        16 days ago

        I thought it was fine but it could have been great had it understood why people actually liked BOTW. The idea that you can just highlight every object in a 1km radius around you completely kills exploration, you’re incentivized to just go from map marker to map marker instead of actually exploring the world.

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        15 days ago

        Legion was such a disappointment… I still regularly go back and play WD1 just because it has a great vibe.

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    16 days ago

    I mean it’s the first time in a long time someone other than EA got the star wars licence, and they make a bland, unexciting game. I can’t imagine Disney is very happy.

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      15 days ago

      I dunno, I’ve played about 8 hours of SW:O and it’s genuinely fun. It’s not a crazy advancement of the genre, but not every game has to be. IMO it’s a very solid open world RPG without all the usual Ubisoft BS.

    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      No. They haven’t. It’s a solid ARPG with a few neat new mechanics. It’s not groundbreaking, but it’s really well made and fun.

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      16 days ago

      If it’s bland and unexciting then it fits very well into Disney Star Wars and Disney should be very happy about it being so on brand.

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        15 days ago

        Yeah, my understanding is Disney is partially at fault for a lot of these flops. I don’t think they’d make a KOTOR or Jedi Knight game.

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    15 days ago

    Maybe don’t charge $145 for a digital product. Maybe charge $50, and sell it to 5x the people. It quite literally costs nothing (okay, pedantically, the tiniest fraction) to sell more units.

    I’d play an okay Star Wars game for $50 day 1. Wouldn’t you?

    And then when it goes on sale, loads of people would pay $20 on a 60% sale price next year. Whose paying $60 at a 60% off sale for a year old okay Star Wars game? No one. Not one soul.

    Oh, you can get it cheaper for subscribing to Ubisoft+. Fuck off with that bullshit, do you even hear yourself?

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      15 days ago

      Ok, I’ll prob get roasted for this but hear me out.

      I think Ubisoft+ is great. I can get the whatever $500 mega platinum edition for like $15 if I can beat it that month. Or even if I take 2 months to beat it, I’ve only spent $30 which is less then a base game. Then you unsub and wait for the next game you’re interested in.

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        15 days ago

        Not gonna roast you or downvote you, as that does seem to be a use case. Just not one that would work for me, since I replay games frequently.

        Honestly the last Ubisoft title I think I played was AC: Black Flag, and that was cause, pirates.

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          15 days ago

          You must’ve been super excited about the AAAA spin-off where they removed boarding.

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        15 days ago

        Yup, and I’ll wait for it be 20 bucks or less on steam, unless it’s like the last one which could have been a dlc for the one before it. If that’s the case, I’ll pass since I didn’t make it half way through the last one because it was boring.

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    15 days ago

    You can block tainted production companies on steam, this removes all their slop from the store page and vastly improves the marketplace.

    Ubisoft was the first shit-hole prod company I ever blocked and it was glorious.