of course they did, they don’t understand shit and need to drum up literally anything to get clicks lmao
When the other candidate’s performance is “rock bottom”, “low” is a massive step up. Not doing the listed things shouldn’t raise the evaluation to “high”, because that’s the bare minimum.
she also shifted right. she’s gonna ruin the enthusiasm if she keeps going like this.
how so? I see nothing to indicate that she shifted right, just that her campaign is pushing for the moderate voters, both on dem and republican sides, which is absolutely a good strategy.
Appealing to republicans is by definition shifting to the right
she’s appealing to moderates, the perceived “right wing appeals” is just a policy based ripped straight from the ages of republican rhetoric that no longer exist, none of those are antithetical to the democrats in anyway, they’re all super relevant, it’s just dramatic irony.
Harris herself is pretty far left, tim walz is from minnesota, politically left.
She has the same views as Biden and Pelosi. If you think that’s pretty far left have you ever heard of Bernie Sanders or anyone who would actually vote for m4a, decriminalizing immigration, or putting an arms embargo in Israel?
bro she was in cali previously to this. Cali is a pretty regularly dem state, one of the more dem leaning ones in the entire country.
Obviously bernie is farther left, but we’re getting into the territory of literal communists and socialists at that point.
You need to broaden your horizons a little
She also clarified her stance on Israel i.e. exactly the same as Biden, full support for genocide.
Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted, that was one of the most disappointing parts of it.
She could have tried to wriggle around it a bit more rhetorically but she just went “I’ll bang my head against the wall with Israel just like we’ve been doing till now.”
In general it was a pretty bad showing from Harris, and Walz did only a bit better.
i mean, it was a pretty bad show in terms of the one question she was asked. I’m not really sure why that’s surprising to people.
It wasn’t just that one question though, the interview overall was bad. The immigration bit too for example.
it was pretty par for the course for a political interview, a lot of the questions were just, not very good. The IVF question was weird?
The downvotes are because that topic matters a lot, but it’s also used to try to force people to become single issue voters, so they’ll vote against her, all the while knowing that Trump loves genocide too, but let’s not mention that.
So if you wanna attack Harris on that issue, please do. You should. But remember to include Trump’s stance as well, if you’re trying to talk about an upcoming election.
Or hey, do whatever you like, right? It’s just that simplistic comments often get simplistic responses (i.e., downvotes).
I feel like having to preface evert criticism of dems with “Trump is worse but…” seems pretty silly.
I generally consider Republican candidates and ideas non-starters. Not even worthy of consideration. When I criticize Democrats, the “Trump is not an option” is implied.
But then your comments are identical to those posted by people whose goal is to undermine democratic support through single issues in order to create voter apathy and let Trump win.
It’s not the message people are downvoting it’s the effect. If you don’t do anything to separate your message from this type of malicious attack, it’ll unfortunately be taken as that.
You’re making bold assumptions about people based simply on the fact that they are criticizing the people currently in power for what they’re currently doing. That’s your fault not theirs stop doing that
I’m not assuming anything.
The right is attacking the left to try to reduce voter turnout. They do this by criticizing Democrats for “not being left enough” even though they are the most viable leftish option and the Republicans are worse at that exact thing. They’re doing this all over the world right now but just in the US. We HAVE to stop this attack.
When you criticize the left for not being left enough without adding nuance or adding that the right is much worse on that topic, you’re either purposefully or accidentally participating in the attack whether you like it or not.
No criticism, just facts.
Why? In this race he is literally the alternative
Because everyone who is interested enough in politics to discuss it online is either voting for him or aware of that fact already.
So? If one of the 2 outcomes will inevitably come true, we really cannot talk about one without at least weighting the other
Media is a circus. Dont clown around or stick head in the lions mouth and youre gonna get a low score
The media is owned by old white conservative men who would prefer fascism over more taxes.
The ‘liberal media’ is a lie
Had a coworker get very mad when I threw “liberal media” back in her face by noting FOX brags about being “the most watched network”.
She responded that FOX is too liberal.
Now that my aunt found OAN she says the same thing…
That’s a lot of things she didn’t do.
She went on camera and said ‘I am a Republican’ to the applause of Democrats.
The winner of a political debate is whoever the audience likes more. It unfortunately has nothing to do with being a reasonable person.
It’s fucking absurd and embarrassing that crowd participation is even permitted in televised presidential debates.
This is the folly of representative democracy. It inevitably becomes less about policy and instead a popularity contest between figureheads.
Representative democracy has run its course, and the problems it solved (the fact that it’s not practical for everyone to attend places of government from far away) have all but been solved by technology. Bring on direct democracy.
She approved genocide and pretended to care about global warming.
So yes, by democratic standards, that was pretty low.
Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency. Trump drives ratings. Ratings means sponsors, sponsors mean revenue, revenue means shares going up.
They are corporations, not services. It’s illegal for them to not do what helps their shareholders.
Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency.
Yea it’s now an election of the old school vs new school and the passing of the torch. Boomers are going down kicking and screaming
They ARE services. They’re not services run for the benefit of the public.
I think we all got a little messed up by the few years that journalism had a bit of credibility. For the vast vast vast majority of humans on earth all forms of mass communication have been propaganda for those in power… I mean look at the Catholic Church for the best modern example
Which few years are you referring to?
I’m gonna posit a guess of around 1930 through the late 90’s when the internet started eating everyone’s lunch for “free”.
(I am not a news historian and this is purely a guess.)
Oh my, no.
It’s illegal for them to not do what helps their shareholders.
This has been repeatedly shown false. They have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders, not a legal one. As Tim Apple once told an investor asking about gains on their push for environmental greenness as a company, he told them that if all they want is for the number to go up they should get out of the stock.
Cook then offered his own bottom line to Danhof, or any other critic, one which perfectly sums up his belief that social and political and moral leadership are not antithetical to running a business. “If that’s a hard line for you,” Cook continued, “then you should get out of the stock.”
Corporations do not have to prioritize profit above everything. The old case where that was in question is quite nuanced and worth reading about.
Businesses also have wide latitude in how they interpret profit mandate. They’re allowed to make purely gut-driven predictions and take huge risks with little evidence on the grounds that a payoff is on the horizon.
Tim Cook could blandly assert that environmental greenness does increase profits and then just hand wave in some fuzzy math about hypothetical waste management or non-renewable material costs or public sentiment. And who could argue with him over a 20 year time horizon?
You can say whatever you want as a CEO and most people will reflexively trust you simply because you’re in a position of authority.
Which pundits actually said that? Most of what I’ve read, people were saying she did pretty well. But you sure got people here believing this meme.
Fox news. Daily beast. Daily Mail. etc. The usual suspects. But no matter what she said or did, they were going to bash her. If she were the 2nd coming they would say she was a “trans ultra-left authoritarian”.
I was under the impression that we all know that nearly all media pundits are greedy and suffer from some form of dementia or other brain disease.
She should never have agreed to it in the first place.
With ABC?
“political memes” what is this blue maga trash
It’s a low bar. If we’re now judging candidates in comparison to Trump then we’re in trouble.
Trump isn’t the standard. He’s an anomaly, and we should aim way higher.
I don’t agree. A scale has to be useful for separating what you’re measuring. Any scale that puts Kamala as “low” is like trying to measure the size of a banana and an orange in kilometers, they’ll both measure “low”. There is no decent measure by which Trump is anything but scum. Kamala (or just about anyone who isn’t a Trump voter) ranks so far above Trump that they can’t be anything under “excellent” on a scale designed to meaningfully compare these candidates.
Obviously the scale we should be using for our politicians SHOULD be better, and that’s because we should have produced better candidates. With the candidates we have, we don’t get to use a better scale because in doing so we’ll be playing right into Republican narrative of “they’re both the same” or Kamala is “low” quality so vote for Trump.
Lol, name the last Republican President that wasn’t a moron.
Roosevelt
https://ictnews.org/archive/theodore-roosevelt-the-only-good-indians-are-the-dead-indians
Morality wise, the last good Republican was Grant.
For intelligence it’s Nixon imo. Tricky Dick didn’t get where he was by being a moron, evil isn’t stupid.
Eisenhower very definitely wasn’t stupid either.
Bush Sr. Then Nixon before that.
Nixon was an idiot, so was Sr.
Nixon was most definitely not an idiot. A piece of shit, absolutely, but an intelligent one. America is extremely lucky that Trump isn’t Nixon
Nixon wasn’t an idiot, he was corrupt.
Well, Trump did make a ton of people madly follow him.
It may be leading the world to ruin, but it is still leading.
