So magneto has actually fought for mutant rights from the beginning. And every time he gets ahead the xmen win and mutant rights don’t really move forward.
The xmen literally fight for the status quo. The status quo is bad for mutants, but they want to keep it for some reason.
An analogy I’ve heard a lot is that professor x is the mlk to Magneto’s Malcolm x. The difference is that mlk didn’t bank roll a CIA black ops style team to constantly beat up Malcolm x whenever he started getting a leg up.
People are fed up. They’re more open to extreme actions. That’s why people are more sympathetic to Magneto
The xmen literally fight for the status quo. The status quo is bad for mutants, but they want to keep it for some reason.
Not quite. Professor X believes that humans will eventually overcome their inherit racism and would be able to live with mutants in peace. He also believes any act of violence from the mutants will push this ideal future further and further (he also does not agree on hurting humans indiscriminately because not all humans are rabid racists)
Whether Professor X is enlightened or just naive, well that’s another story
Let me translate it back from the X-Men metaphor to reality for you:
Professor X Centrist politicians believe that humans fascists will eventually overcome their inherit racism and would be able to live with mutants minorities in peace. He also believes any act of violence from the mutants minorities will push this ideal future further and further (he also does not agree on hurting humans fascists indiscriminately because not all humans fascists are rabid racists)
Do you NOW see how hopelessly naïve and eventually oppressive Professor X’s insistence on being nice to the oppressors is?
Whether Professor X is enlightened or just naive, well that’s another story
“Fought for mutant rights” is a stretch. At the start he was a 2-dimensional villain fighting for mutants to rule over humans.
Direct quote: “The moment is at hand! All my months of preparation and planning shall pay off! The Human Race no longer deserves dominion over the planet Earth! The Day of the Mutants is upon us! The first phase of my plan shall be to show my power… to make homo sapiens bow to homo superior!” His plan involves invading a military base and taking control of “The mightiest rocket of all”.
As for the status quo, the emergence of mutants changed the status quo. What Xavier is generally fighting for is that mutants have the same rights as normal humans. Magneto is fighting for mutants to dominate over humans. And, certain powerful interest in the government are fighting to either cage or exterminate mutants. The early years of the X-men comics are fights on one side against Magneto trying to do something with his group of super-powered mutants (literally called the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants), and on the other side fighting against powerful forces in the (human) government who see mutants as a threat and want to stop them before they get too powerful. Plus a bunch of fights against aliens, dimensional-hopping baddies, dinosaur-human hybrids from Antarctica, you know, the usual.
Eventually, Magneto is seemingly satisfied with mutants having their own country where they get to set their own laws and live separately from humans (backed up by the threat of force from the most powerful mutants), whereas Xavier wants humanity and mutants to live together in peace and harmony.
So magneto has actually fought for mutant rights from the beginning. And every time he gets ahead the xmen win and mutant rights don’t really move forward. The xmen literally fight for the status quo. The status quo is bad for mutants, but they want to keep it for some reason. An analogy I’ve heard a lot is that professor x is the mlk to Magneto’s Malcolm x. The difference is that mlk didn’t bank roll a CIA black ops style team to constantly beat up Malcolm x whenever he started getting a leg up.
People are fed up. They’re more open to extreme actions. That’s why people are more sympathetic to Magneto
Not quite. Professor X believes that humans will eventually overcome their inherit racism and would be able to live with mutants in peace. He also believes any act of violence from the mutants will push this ideal future further and further (he also does not agree on hurting humans indiscriminately because not all humans are rabid racists)
Whether Professor X is enlightened or just naive, well that’s another story
Let me translate it back from the X-Men metaphor to reality for you:
Professor XCentrist politicians believe thathumansfascists will eventually overcome their inherit racism and would be able to live withmutantsminorities in peace. He also believes any act of violence from themutantsminorities will push this ideal future further and further (he also does not agree on hurtinghumansfascists indiscriminately because not allhumansfascists are rabid racists)Do you NOW see how hopelessly naïve and eventually oppressive Professor X’s insistence on being nice to the oppressors is?
Nah, that IS the story.
This is where your rebuttal faltered. Not everyone out there is a fascist
Magneto wanted to push, hurt, kill everyone regardless of their stance towards mutants
Hurting humans indiscriminately would translate to hurting white people indiscriminately, not fascists. That’s the flaw in your reasoning.
“Fought for mutant rights” is a stretch. At the start he was a 2-dimensional villain fighting for mutants to rule over humans.
Direct quote: “The moment is at hand! All my months of preparation and planning shall pay off! The Human Race no longer deserves dominion over the planet Earth! The Day of the Mutants is upon us! The first phase of my plan shall be to show my power… to make homo sapiens bow to homo superior!” His plan involves invading a military base and taking control of “The mightiest rocket of all”.
As for the status quo, the emergence of mutants changed the status quo. What Xavier is generally fighting for is that mutants have the same rights as normal humans. Magneto is fighting for mutants to dominate over humans. And, certain powerful interest in the government are fighting to either cage or exterminate mutants. The early years of the X-men comics are fights on one side against Magneto trying to do something with his group of super-powered mutants (literally called the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants), and on the other side fighting against powerful forces in the (human) government who see mutants as a threat and want to stop them before they get too powerful. Plus a bunch of fights against aliens, dimensional-hopping baddies, dinosaur-human hybrids from Antarctica, you know, the usual.
Eventually, Magneto is seemingly satisfied with mutants having their own country where they get to set their own laws and live separately from humans (backed up by the threat of force from the most powerful mutants), whereas Xavier wants humanity and mutants to live together in peace and harmony.
IMO a better comparison would be Professor X is the same as the core democratic party and Magneto is the progressive wing.
All it takes is one mutant to fuck up the trust built with humans. Professor X is on ketamine