• VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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    23 days ago

    People still repeating this is a real proof no amount of facts or access to information matters if the lie is a fun one that fits your existing biases

  • Crewman@sopuli.xyz
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    24 days ago

    TIL Edison didn’t kill Topsy the elephant, but did electrocute a bunch of stray animals.

  • expatriado@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    I’ve seen electrocuted being wrongly use when referring to being shocked, but not the viceversa

  • niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    The more you read about that shithead edison, the worse it gets. The asshole acted with an impunity that defies modern logic.
    As it was, there was no social media and our current sensibilities back then, information took much more effort to spread, so way too many people have revered him as some sort of saintly hero. Word didn’t spread about how narcissistic and petty, how cruel to the point of savagery, he was.

    That goes ditto for Marconi, his “billion-dollar innovation” consisted of stealing every academic research idea and design within reach, and patenting every single one as his own.

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      24 days ago

      The asshole acted with an impunity that defies modern logic.

      … have you not seen how our modern billionaires act?

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        23 days ago

        It was in my mind, but I think Edison got away with some things that exceed the current crop of billionaires, by at least one length, as they say in horse racing. Especially during his no-holds-barred attack on Westinghouse/Tesla and their alternating current, while Edison pushed direct current, which included his inventions to create and deliver it. He had the whole goddamned infrastructure planned out, world domination for decades and decades was at stake here.

        But even as Edison pushed every vicious tactic to discredit DC as unsafe, Nikolai Tesla came out the winner, and he did it with dignity and style. Remember the famous photos of Tesla by the arcing electric wires and stuff? Those were publicity shots to show the world (well… mostly NYC at the time, where the AC vs DC war was being fought) that DC was safe enough for even the inventor to sit there casually and read the newspaper.

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          24 days ago

          Of course there is. It may not be morally justified, but it’s still logical.

          Their logic isn’t “We need to better society so that all may live in harmony”, it’s “I must control as much as possible to stave off the inevitable nothingness of death”.

          Assuming all things that are repugnant to you have no logic to them at all is an easy way to misunderstand and underestimate those who can do the most harm to you.

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    24 days ago

    Man literally invented the electric chair entirely to showcase how bad going out this way is, and the psychopaths of the prison industrial complex wonder why people are becoming sceptical of the notion that the death penalty can be administered in any way that isn’t cruel and unusual.

    The whole point of punitive death is to be cruel and unusual to the alleged transgressor, to offer their corpse as a blood sacrifice on the altar of sadistic vengeance to the victims or the next of kin thereof

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      24 days ago

      Quick and painless execution was solved long ago. Shotgun from behind them. Like a light switch turning off. But it is rough on the guards.

      The real problem is we keep finding innocent people on death row. People that SCOTUS can’t even hand waive away. Until recently SCOTUS just up and ruled that new evidence can’t be considered by federal courts. So now innocent people on Death Row are pretty much just relying on the good will of the governor.

      So yeah, we know we’re killing innocent people and we refuse to stop.

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        23 days ago

        Firing squads are often partially equipped with blanks so the shooters don’t know it was them. But then again, I’m pretty sure an experienced shooter could tell if it’s live or blank ammo from how the gun behaves. Idk tho never shot a gun my life.

  • Ferris@infosec.pub
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    24 days ago

    theyre not even necessarily evil, theyre just dingdong regular people that ran into a situation and learned to live with it