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Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…
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it did…they have changed their website a lot these last few days.
Optimised for peak performance? Are there benchmarks to back this up?
Edit - their docs have benchmarks. They do not appear to have comparative benchmarks
I believe it’s just a build with all modern cpu features enabled. At the cost of undefined behavior when ran on older computers
That whole chart seems pretty hand-wavey.
This looks like it good be a great replacement for Floorp. Thanks for sharing!
There privacy is better than regular Firefox due to disabling telemetry etc, but librewolf does way more to protect against fingerprinting. The browser itself is quite good, although it shows that it’s in early development. Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
Doesn’t this only make sense if it is off by default on that browser? I assume if it is on by default, most people will just keep it on, thus making users of that browser that turn it off stand out more. No?
Firefox doesn’t enable it by default, so if you turn it of any chance of being perceived as just another Firefox user is gone. It may not be a measurable difference but as basically no site respects it and those that do aren’t a big problem in the first place it doesn’t matter all that much
Their* privacy
cheers, was intrigued if this was an alternative for LibreWolf. Hope it’ll come around!
I’ll take anything to get off of Firefox. I’ll give this browser a week long trial run.
can you spot any differences in your browser comparison?
I did but all you fucking morons are having your knee jerk reactions. It’s what I expected from dumb fucking fanboys with no lives who swear their allegiance to Firefox. Fuck you. lol
A bit more politeness goes a very long way.
Try being more civil, this will earn you way more support, especially since you want to change people’s minds.
Try Floorp.
Also, maybe don’t compare clean chrome install to FF with a half dozen extensions installed. Extensions like Greasemonkey run literally any script you tell them to. An errant line of code and there goes your memory.
Try again, apples to apples dude.
I think it’s a fair comparison. You’re just moving the field goals, is all.
Okay, extensions require container processes, for each one. Each new extension add to the RAM usage. For both Firefox and Chrome.
So already the comparison is flawed.
But now, Firefox is clearly showing Tampermonkey in the toolbar, a userscript extension. Let’s just say I run a script that fetches competing price info from temu.com when you browse a site like amazon. Not uncommon.
Let’s say I set that to loop, so it’ll work on infinite scroll pages too.
Okay, now if you leave your browser alone for an hour and it’s refreshing these scripts, guess what happens to the memory?
Every test of current builds of FF vs Chrome has found extremely negligible performance differences when both are stock installs.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/mozilla-firefox-chrome-review-comparison-2020/
This is from 4 years ago,. Again, stock browser without a busted extension causing a memory leak, the browser runs solid.
https://cloudzy.com/blog/which-browsers-use-the-least-memory/#Firefox_vs_Chrome_RAM_Usage_Comparison
Run a real world test and you’ll see what I mean. Their RAM consumption is pretty much on par, and varies between update cycles but not wildly.
https://youtu.be/YQcslo9OqtE?si=FvI-Hk7vk46H5U67
From 3 months ago, with graphs. Firefox and Chrome have had near identical performance for years.
Awfully rude just because you don’t like something that you have full control of deciding to use or not.
Awfully rude to be this retarded.
@Frozyre please keep it a bit friendly. I understand you are mad, but there’s no point in treating other people like this.
Tell the assholes to keep it friendly themselves. I’m talking the fanboys. They who can’t handle differing opinions have no place in open discussion on any platform. Period.
You actually started calling them to go to hell.
Open discussions are of course fine, but your tone isn’t. Since we aren’t talking about handling different opinions now, you are just insulting people. So feel free to express any feedback you might have, but there is no need for insulting and swearing.
How does this one compare to the current OGs like Mullvad Browser and Librewolf?
Until something comes out saying otherwise, Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.
I believe Zen is better than default Firefox out of the box, but you can get the same effect in regular Firefox by toggling some options.
I liked Zen for the UI changes. It’s nice having the tabs on the side and a customizable sidebar
Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.
Only makes sense if you use their VPN. Otherwise, there’s no real advantages over LibreWolf.
Idk much about the privacy features, but I’ve been using it for the past day and it’s way faster and better optimised then floorp.
I’ve checked it out, and it looks really good, sort of like arc browser. It’s very stylish, and since it’s Firefox-based, supports ublock origin. It’s obviously not finished yet though, so I’ll stay on Floorp until it reaches beta or stable. I’m totally switching once it gets there
I like it so far. The weakness seems to be the size of the dev team and if the project has a future. Hopefully they are planning accordingly.
I went through a handful of threads and it seems mostly positive so far. One choice I wasn’t sure about was that they’re considering having a built in adblocker (based on something that’s not ublock origin). I would prefer if the browser just shipped with ublock origin instead.
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browser-extensions/
As far as privacy focused browsers go, Mull seems to be the best still. I was exploring Zen for my day to day browser.
Appreciate the browser extensions link, thanks.
Arkenfox provide a more in-depth extensions-related info: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions
Mull
Mull is Android only: https://divestos.org/pages/our_apps#mull.
Thanks!
Mull is Android only
Oops, fixed the comment
Are they based on Firefox ESR? That made me quit Floorp, it was pretty disappointing to be on a legacy reskin of Firefox.
Probably not, as the image says Zen is based on the latest Firefox and Floorp isn’t.
Tried it a bit yesterday on Windows. Opened a Github link in it and Windows Defender killed the app saying it was a threat. Definitely a false positive but seemed odd to see the entire app just die instantly, lol.
Well, there is no native .deb package and “There is no plan for official .deb pkg”.
Source:
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/328
That makes sense as packing for a bunch of distros is a lot of work vs just using Flatpak.
I’ve been using it for about a week, both at work and at home, and I must say that it is great. It is nearly everything that I wanted from a browser. Especially since it is based on Firefox.
I’ve been so happy with it, that I even donated to the project.
Happy to hear!
Has anyone tried loading arkenfox user.js on there? That’s the bare minimum for me to use a Firefox-based browser. I’m not using that without hardening.
I love Mulls new browser fork of Firefox but on Gos it weakens the security due to a sandbox implementation not being as strong vs Chromium. I hate big corpo who don’t. Brave seems to be the best mobile for now. Sucks but soon as sandboxing issue is fixed. Firefox FTW!