Lock them up!
I’m not sure how I feel about cyberbullying being punishable with jail time
Well the way laws tend to work they scale to consequence.
Like think about speeding in a school zone. You get caught by a cop doing it it’s a fine. Nobody is going to jail.
But say you speed and hit someone and cause injury. You probably face big fines or a few days in jail or community service.
But then imagine you are speeding in a school zone and you hit and kill a kid. That’s not ruled a no fault accidental death as it would be if you weren’t speeding. Because you broke the smaller law you get the upgrade to manslaughter because you were found criminally at fault.
Cyberbullying applies the same logic. As long as there were no criminal harms and measurable damages it’s a little fine to remind you that that’s not cool. But the more recordable damages the cyberbullying causes the more you are on the hook. If you are a person with millions of followers chances are you have a lot of potential destructive power and it is wiser to keep your facts straight and your nose clean when it comes to calls to action to harrass someone who has comparatively very little ability to defend themselves.
Nobody does till it happens to their kids or a family member and you see what it does to someone, especially children and young people
I am sure. It’s caused suicides.
Be careful. Suddenly JD Vance couch memes are illegal, cause it’s making fun of someone for something with no basis in reality.
Believe it or not, posting a meme about JD Vance on Lemmy, where he doesn’t even go most likely, is not cyberbullying.
It is also generally not considered cyberbullying to do such a thing to a public personality like a politician.
Same with “SWATing”, giving every asshole access to the internet has caused real physical harm to many people and should be punished severely.
Sometimes I think the Right has a point about how sensitive we are… But, only sometimes…
Harrassment and defamation are real charges regardless of whether they happen online or not
If only the law would apply to the rich and powerful… if only, if only…
This would be nice if it happened, but I give it 1% tops. Elon especially, the government has its fingers in his businesses and would likely step in to cut a deal even if his money couldn’t save him. But since he didn’t break any American laws and the 1st Amendment is a huge thing, I doubt he’d be extradited in the first place. He might in that case end up with a standing warrant that would get him arrested the minute he stepped foot over there, though, if he’s tried in absentia.
I don’t know anything about UK law so I have no idea what would happen to her royal terfness, but she’s got dump trucks full of money, so she’s probably fine. If there’s one thing that’s the same everywhere in the world, it’s that rich people live by their own set of rules.
And nothing of value will be lost.
Literally, they don’t produce anything. They would probably accumulate more wealth while in prison. In my ideal society the judge would hit them for a percentage of their net worth.
🙏 🙏 🙏
Ok, so this IS the Daily Mail, they’re notoriously shit reporters. That said:
Please please please please please please please
I don’t think there is anything false with what they said, it’s just stating the punishment for the crime. Now, whether those punishments actually happen is the question.
There’s a zero percent chance either one of them sees the inside of a jail cell.
They could do a tour
Believing billionaires will face consequences is practically a mental illness these days.
Delusional disorder ☑️
Mueller Time, baby! This time someone in authority is going to actually arrest and imprison some rich asshole, for real! We promise! Look at these memes!!!
Look we can blame that fact that he appointed zealots like Barr with a fuck ton of corrupt powers to protect him.
If he didn’t have any shield he would have been fucked
Fucking hell just thinking about Mooch, Barr and Sessions again is giving me fucking anxiety
I’ll spot you Barr and Sessions, but Scaramucci was just good fun.
Sure, but maybe she could get money for damages. Apparently she was living in poverty prior to the Olympics, like a lot of other Olympians from developing countries. Having to do sex work or rely on money from their family and community is pretty common, unfortunately.
This is a fine line, be careful! But that old hag is hateful.
How does the jurisdiction even work there? A UK citizen and a SA/Canada/US citizen get prosecuted for cyberbullying of an Algerian citizen? Don’t get me wrong, they deserve it, but this feels like a “careful what you wish for” type of thing.
It’s almost like these borders we have are stupid and arbitrary and instead we should have a global system of justice to handle these cross border crimes.
But hey. Nationalism.
All around the world, crime is defined very differently. What would a global system of justice look like?
Would you say the system as it exists now is your Utopia? Then why does mine have to have no flaws? Your question is loaded, it’s looking to poke specific holes into the broad idea that humanity should cooperate further. It’s pedantic.
I never said yours has to have no flaws. I literally just asked you what you thought lmao
Your asking for specifics from a laymen. That’s argumentive bait. My “vision for global justice” is irrelevant to the broad idea that we should have one as I am not talking specifics.
I thought the conspiracy videos I watched about a new world order were lying when they said there are people out there that actually want this.
Lol self report.
Ever heard of the lèse-majesté laws in Thailand? Now imagine a dictator able to use that to silence critics globally that are “cyberbullying” them. We already see it with countries filing bogus Interpol requests to harass dissident diaspora members. And sure you could have an independent body, but then that is subject to politics and capture.
“It’s like these borders we have are stupid and arbitary”
You get that borders and people governing a piece of land is stupid…but you still don’t GET IT.
Thank you
Yes, let’s imagine the worst possible implementation of this broad idea. Done. Let’s not do it that way then. Problem averted, thank you for submitting your complaint to the planning committee of the new world order justice system aka me apparently.
Yes, let’s imagine how humans will try to exploit a system like this. Concentrate power like that and people will absolutely try to abuse it. Someone has to set and enforce the rules, and that means one single global point of failure.
Welcome to the interconnected world we live in. Better than pretending we are separate.
Even arguably the two most similar cultures in the world, the United States and Canada, have enough disagreements on how government should work that there wouldn’t be massive support on either side for them to merge.
Not to mention 1A has worked against Rowling in the past (she threatens libel lawsuits that are valid in the UK, but US doesn’t extradite for stuff that would be considered free speech there.)
Ya know what, your totally right. All of human history up to this point was just building to the natural borders and separations we have right at this moment and never should we aspire to come together beyond them. Everyone is exactly in their place as God intended. Wishing for more human cooperation is not only stupid but somehow immoral, despite the fact that centralizing larger populations has been the progress of humans for all of human history, it should stop right at this moment because the people living through it just can’t imagine their flag being different. They like the flag too much.
You’re advocating people be tried for speech crimes by an international body that they didn’t vote for and can’t fire through an electoral process. Seems like a great idea that totally won’t backfire.
Says who? I made a broad statement and you’re assuming specifics to be mad about.
INTERPOL has existed for over 100 years.
I do love international cooperation. What’s wrong with even more cooperation?
you wish…
Fines should be based on net worth. That fine is a joke for them.
Make them cellmates and they have to share a phone.
Nobody is going to jail. Sorry to burst your bubble. Just find comfort in knowing they will likely cost themselves millions, needlessly.
Jail time… no fines. Fines mean nothing to these people… jail time!
Agree, but you know that’s about as likely to happen as Trump serving time. The legal system likes money as much as everyone else.
I know… I can only hope and fantasize…
Jail time…
…and fines?
I’m not sure, I don’t care about fines, but I think Imane Khelif would deserve some compensation for what they put her through.
So, a jail sentence and generous damages payed to the victim would be an ideal outcome from my point of view.
That would be a civil suit that would need to be brought separately.
