Trump, the same Trump that killed boarder legislation because he didn’t want to give biden a win?
Not him, no, never.
Via user kingshrubb: Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html
Oh hey the traitorous traitor is doing traitor things.
So like the alleged deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran during the hostage crisis to get elected and oust Carter?
Or Kissinger and North Vietnam to get Nixon elected. It’s a time honored Republican strategy.
What do you mean? Oliver North took all the blame!
Oh no, you’re thinking of Iran-Contra, the other treasonous act that Reagan committed involving Iran. OP is talking about the rumored deal Reagan made with Iran wherein Iran would not release the American hostages until after the 1980 election. Coincidentally, the hostages were released on January 20th, 1981, the day Reagan was sworn in.
Sidenote, has anyone seen the Netflix documentary about the octopus murders? I think the proof that Reagan made that deal is at the heart of that conspiracy.
Aw shucks. You know just when you think you hone in on one depraved scandal of Reagan, you realize you’re mixing it up with another depraved scandal of Reagan.
I highly recommend watching American Conspiracy on Netflix. The way the CIA and government actually operates is pretty disturbing, but the subject of the documentary is how the justice department stole a software program from a private company and resold it to foreign governments so that it could raise funds to repay Earl Brian, who had provided $40 million to Iran to hold the hostages until after the election.
I do not recall.
🎶 Ollie North 🎶 OLLIE NORTH 🎶
the same Trump that killed boarder legislation
You’re giving Trump way too much credit. Republicans couldn’t pass a border bill under Bush Jr, when they had all three branches of government firmly in hand and “Protecting the Border” was a major campaign issue. A big chunk of the GOP wants to literally do a holocaust followed by a massive land grab along the US/Mexico border. Any legislation that doesn’t grant this is DOA in the Republican-controlled House.
Trump got to be the face of why it failed this time. But it was Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo back in 2006. And it was Cornyn, McCain, and Graham who killed it in 2011. Then Republicans killed their own Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2018, back when it might have helped Trump.
Its so fucking easy to kill immigration bills in Congress. Nobody likes voting for them. Anything that can even be hinted at increasing the amount of legal immigration is a poisoned pill. They always fail.
It’s Iran-Contra all over again.
Boy, if this had happened twice I’d have two nickels.
OH WAIT
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory
Republicans just genuinely don’t have any original ideas.
“Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable with imprisonment for up to three years.”
I can only say: Lock him up!
I can only say: Lock him up!
…if convicted by a jury of his peers…
A jury of his peers could only be people that fail in business, sociopaths, pedophiles, and… former presidents?
A jury of his peers have convicted him before. It’s the judges he seated that are the biggest problem.
Well yes ofcourse, I kinda forgot that’s not always to be taken for granted :-]
Pretrial detention would be appropriate for someone with a history of attempted witness intimidation and with the means to flee the country
I’m gonna need more than somebody’s social media post on this.
Complete tangent but how did you edit your comment without causing an edit mark to appear on it?
I edited it within a very short time after posting it. There’s some kind of “grace period” (at least on fedia.io), but I don’t know exactly what it is.
Reddit had a 2-3 min window to edit without it being marked as such; I haven’t noticed that on lemmy.world (dunno if it matters instance to instance).
Any edits on SJW are instantly marked
Edit 10 sec
I didn’t know Social Justice Warriors had an instance on Lemmy.
Oh… it’s just shit again. Haha.
You right, ill change my title.
- In his meeting with Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago a day after the Fox News interview, Trump said the situation with the hostages is very tough and that they have to be returned immediately.
Yeah. The hostage situation is “very tough”. They’re not gonna ‘fix’ that for him its just right out there like that’s how leaders talk. As if. And, agreed, he couldn’t lead a Mongol horde out of a wet paper bag.
Non of those links confirm the tweet. Honestly this smells like fake news, as OP, has pointed out.
The rueters one doesn’t indicate anything about Trump talking to Bibi and discouraging him from setting up a peace deal.
To me it’s still relevant because it establishes that trump has an open line of communication to bibi and he is directly expressing to him his thoughts about the Genocide in Gaza.
Wish there was more reporting around this.
Possible replacement for that twitter link, here’s an article discussing Woodruff’s comments - https://web.archive.org/web/20240820213405/https://newrepublic.com/post/185076/donald-trump-scheme-beat-kamala-harris-benjamin-netanyahu-ceasefire
I would delete it but it’s too relevant to the meme. Alternative link to the dnc footage would be nice, tho.
Agreed. The “lady” is Judy Woodruff, PBS anchor and correspondent since it was the MacNeill-Lehrer News Hour, so it would greatly surprise me if she didn’t have some credible evidence behind “the reporting is”.
But I missed that moment last night, so I’d want to be sure she said it.
She did, see link above.
😂You really think Judy Woodruff is gonna put her reputation on the line by spreading BS? Good lord…
I don’t see any indication that she’s related to this. Anyone can put a picture of anyone near some text, and claim that they are quoting that person.
Google it. It’s on her Twitter account. She said it but she recently apologized and said she got it wrong.
I could, but that’s not the point. The point is that someone posted a picture of some text, without any sources. And that when someone asks for a shred of proof, some people don’t get why. This is very important.
And this is what I’m trying to tell you, and anyone else reading. A picture of text is not reliable, and it does not help that there’s also a picture of someone you trust. The guy asking for proof is the sensible voice, not the voice of a person with issues.
OP did follow up with proof though, people who are too lazy to Google the quote are also too lazy to read OPs proof and instead act like they should be spoon fed everything.
It’s posts like this that always oddly have 0 tankie comments lamenting about genocide Joe. Weird how that is, it’s like they avoid all articles that disprove their entire worldview. Crazy.
I want to point out that there may not be that many “tankies” on Lemmy. And Biden isnt running right ? So its not “genocide Joe” … it is now in Kamala’s court.
Problem: Kamala is tough on crime, Kamala is tough on bordercontrol ( she famously told people “DO NOT COME TO THE UNITED STATES”. She is strong in every talking point Conservatives and Right-wing media are throwing at establishment democrats.
So “tankies” are the far-left commies, so they agree on everything to the other extreme with right-wing nuts.
Kamala is poison to both extreme groups. Hence crickets you get silence.
Hey I’m pretty extreme and anti-genocide, but I think we all hope she just wins so we can start giving her a hard time about Israel and her conservative stances, without worrying about the much worse option getting elected.
But I’m not even American. So the domestic aspect doesn’t impact me and much, beyond of course wanting the best for you guys
Not an American either. But if US Elections blowup, it will impact jobs and markets worldwide. Things can go south pretty fast and not everyone has safety nets or nest eggs to save themselves.
Yeah if I have to choose between two evils I’m going to always take the one that is lesser and open to criticism over the one who revels in their evil
Idk about Lemmy, but I lose brain cells on YouTube about this stuff whenever I make a mistake of scrolling down to read the comments. Just yesterday I saw a comment under a video where someone was speaking in support for Harris, the comment was something like “supporting evil and not knowing it”. I am not gonna outright say that Kamala is not evil, but to call Kamala evil over Trump takes some very high level of ignorance.
People will keep dying, but that’s okay.
/s
It’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make.
Bibi: give us some MOABS and permission to build beachfront properties and you very got s deal.
We don’t want boarders though. They will just kill us all and take our ship.
Or they’ll eat our food and leave the bathroom a mess.
Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html
Something, something, Iran Hostage Crisis, something, something, more bullshit from the Reagan playbook
Doesn’t that violate some US law? He is not authorized to negotiate with a foreign power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
Nobody has ever been convicted under the Logan act, and Trump is desperate to win to shield himself from much more serious charges. But yes, if likely does.
And Democrats will just allow the Republican to get away with treason ‘for the good of the country’, even though that’s how we got into this mess. If Nixon actually went to jail, this whole era of Republican dirty tricks and corruption would’ve never happened.
ARRROOOOO
I feel like Nixon at least knew how to wear a suit.
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He also signed OSHA into law. His presidency is such a mixed bag.
Reagan did the same thing with the hostages in the embassy in Iran.
theRe Really seems to be a common thRead between all these cRiminals that’s difficult to deteRmine.
Lol I was like “hold on, I’ve seen this one”
If that’s true, it’s absolutely abominable.
And illegal