The Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle has hardly been an international sales success, thanks to poor hydrogen infrastructure, expense, and polarizing design, but it proved successful to Ukrainian forces which scavenged parts from the hydrogen car to create the world’s smallest hydrogen bomb.
  • SeaJ@lemm.eeOP
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    3 months ago

    Well at least somebody found a use for a Mirai. Props to the Ukrainian military for an explosion in their creativity.

    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I mean, it’s a bomb fueled by the hydrogen fuel cell in the vehicle. Not sure what else you would call it when trying to differentiate it from something a traditional car or one made from a truck filled with ammonium nitrate.

      Yes the term Hydrogen Bomb also refers to a thermonuclear device, but the same two word term han have different, yet similar, meanings.

        • AlDente@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          3 months ago

          no one says hydrogen bomb referring to conventional arms.

          Bold claim, considering you’re posting in a thread where the article does exactly that. 🤣

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            3 months ago

            fortunately, this stupid thread doesn’t encompass the rest of the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD.

            bold claim? pull your head out

              • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                3 months ago

                you’re entirely correct, I should have stated ‘no one with half a brain or a quarter of an education would make that mistake.’

                appreciate the feedback.

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          I’d also say a majority of people also don’t know the term in relation to nuclear weapons either. The average person is extremely uneducated about anything nuclear. They don’t know what differences between the original bombs the US dropped and modern nuclear weapons weapons might be. Even post-Oppenheimer film.

          Differentiating between Nuclear and Thermonuclear weapons is something pedants in online forums do, not normies in the real world.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            3 months ago

            I completely disagree with you. A hydrogen bomb has meant nuclear weapons for 50ish years to anyone with a passing familiarity - and a whole shitton of people learned during the cold war that there were nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, they built fucking shelters in their back yards lol.

            so no, disagree with you.

            • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              3 months ago

              Well, for anecdotal proof of the average person… Since that’s all we have here… both of my boomer parents that lived through the cold war, and were those children sheltering under fucking desks as of that would make a damned difference, didn’t think it was related to a nuclear weapon at all.

              It’s a Yahoo Autos article for fucks sake, because it isn’t a nuke, no one would mistake it for a nuke. Only dipshits online trying to argue because they’re incapable of admitting their initial assumption of a headline didn’t actually make sense in context.

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          And why would Yahoo Autos be where you found out Ukraine detonated a thermonuclear weapon in Russia?

          The internet was a mistake. Everyone lost the ability for critical thinking or to even look where an article is from apparently.

          • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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            3 months ago

            You don’t deserve to be downvoted for this. It’s a bomb, that uses hydrogen as fuel, what else would you call it?

            And yes, Yahoo Autos is definitely not where you’d hear about this first.

          • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
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            3 months ago

            That name is also already taken. An atom bomb usually refers to the first generation of nuclear bombs that use only fission, e.g., those used in WWII. The hydrogen bomb refers to the second generation of nuclear bombs that use a chain reaction of nuclear fission and fusion to create bombs that are orders of magnitude more powerful.

            For comparison, Fat Man was ~20 kilotons and the largest ever bomb (Tsar Bomba) was ~50,000 kilotons.

      • SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        It’s journalistic malpractice to not call it something that would differentiate it from a nuke. Simply calling it “a hydrogen cell bomb” or “a bomb fueled by hydrogen” would still be just as accurate and not imply it’s a nuke.

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          On the flip side, Ukraine detonating a nuke wouldn’t be something we’re discovering about on Yahoo Autos. That would be all over mainstream news everywhere.

          • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Personally, I think that “hydrogen bomb” is a worse name for the fission/fusion bomb than for this one. I mean, it is what it is because the name has meant the fission/fusion bomb since it first became a thing, but it was either a bad naming or the name was selected because it was deliberately misleading (cold war and all).

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            3 months ago

            That term almost exclusively refers to thermonuclear weapons.

            The amazing Ukrainians created what’s basically a fuel-air-bomb often referred to as a thermobaric weapon. By spreading the hydrogen out you get a larger bang because the mix reaches a better mixture between the air (oxidizer) and fuel (hydrogen) powering the explosion. It’s damn nifty and props to them, but it’s not a hydrogen bomb in the conventionally used sense of the word.

            I really dislike the term hydrogen bomb because I don’t want anyone, anywhere to confuse the terminology and give RU any excuses to escalate from conventional weapons, which probably sounds like an overreaction but if you see the shit the russians use to justify their bullshit…

            See: russian accusations of use of chemical weapons while they’re being accused by ukraine of using chemical weapons. Don’t give them loaded rhetorical talking points.