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      But why? It look more like a fascist telling everyone he’s not a fascist but a “concerned citizen” who deeply cares about the “common people”. Everyone knows, he’s a fascist but they like the momentum he gives their party and they fall for the illusion, that he can be controlled once he’s in office.

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      It seems to be satirizing a common argument that is currently ongoing between two factions on the left / centre-left in the US, with regards to Palestine and the election.

      One side is advocating just to make sure Kamala gets the presidency and Trump is defeated, after which point (they say) she can be pressured to ‘move left’ on the subject of Israel, which would mean to enforce an arms embargo on Netanyahu in order to put a halt to the killing in Gaza.

      The other side (which is the position being advocated by this meme) are saying no, it doesn’t work like that with Democrats – they’re only movable when they’re up for election. Once in power, they’ll defer to their big money donors and lobbyists in Washington. If you want to pressure on Kamala on Israel, the time to do it is now, while she’s desperate to get elected.

      Or something like that.

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        Maybe this is just me, but in the past two decades in which I’ve been politically active, and in what I’ve studied of the past, I have never seen anyone ever support a strategy of trying to move already-elected politicians further left.

        If anything, the discourse is usually about how presidents look more conservative than they are because conservatives have had control of Congress for all but a few months of the past 40 years.

        Biden ended up being further left than I thought he would be, but I don’t remember anyone suggesting pre-election that he could be pushed further left.

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          Biden was arguably pushed further left by Bernie Sanders negotiating with him 1-on-1 to incorporate progressive policies into his platform and to get some of his progressive members into key positions of power (mostly committee chair positions). Still that was post-Primaries and pre-election to my knowledge.

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        That’s the far right and centre right. There is no left major political party.

        But yes electing more progressive government shifts the Overton window and gets us closer to leftism.

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          Are there any studies on the Overton window and if it’s affects are real or more specifically relevant to leftist ideals?

          Everything I’ve found on it indicates it’s a useful tool for shifting the political conversation towards more authoritarian rule but there is nothing in it being used to shift towards progressivism.

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            Are there any studies on the Overton window and if it’s affects are real or more specifically relevant to leftist ideals?

            Everything I’ve found on it indicates it’s a useful tool for shifting the political conversation towards more authoritarian rule but there is nothing in it being used to shift towards progressivism.

            1. Application in Media and Leftist Governments: A study on leftist governments in Latin America examines how these regimes engage in media activism and discourse regulation, potentially shifting the Overton Window to accommodate progressive and populist policies. The research suggests that leftist governments actively work to influence public discourse, challenging the binary distinctions of populist and non-populist left, and highlights the role of institutional and structural constraints in shaping these efforts (Kitzberger, 2010).

            2. Adversarial Co-Production: Recent research discusses breaking the Overton Window in the context of policy co-production in the UK, particularly in “left-behind” communities targeted for progressive policies like basic income. This study outlines how transformative policies, often seen as outside the Overton Window, can be brought into the realm of public acceptability through adversarial co-production, which involves engaging opponents of evidence-based policy to shift public opinion (Johnson et al., 2023).