Musk claims there was a DDOS attack on X — but The Verge is told there was not.
Musk repeated the DDOS claim when the Space finally began around 8:40PM ET. “As this massive attack illustrates, there’s a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say,” he said.
So not only is he lying about a DDOS, but he just assumes out of nowhere that it’s politically motivated by the “opposition” - when Trump basically has mouth diarrhea 24/7 and this would do absolutely nothing to prevent Trump from being heard on his 100 other ways exposing himself to the public. Galaxy brain genius logic right there.
Most likely a dev did not want to get fired so he put the blame on a unknown bad actor instead and musk believed, lol
Or Musk has sycophants running IT who can’t tell the difference.
“So I’ve got this script that will make 20k simultaneous requests and average the response time to determine if we’re being DDOSed. Someone’s got it out for us because there’s a short DDOS attack every single time I run the script! These guys are good, whoever they are! I’ll trace some IPs… Oh shit. The DDOS is coming from inside the building! Better fire some more people. And don’t worry, I’ll be running my DDOS detector script a lot for the interview to make sure we don’t get attacked!”
🤣
He’s just trying to avoid having to admit that X is an unreliable platform due to him firing all the people that kept it stable. That would mean having to admit his own decisions are not always perfect, and someone of his temperament can’t admit that.
A live stream with tens of thousands of simultaneous viewers is, almost by definition, a scheduled DDOS. Even Apple struggled for years to get it right for their WWDC Keynote events back when they were live.
I didn’t think Twitter Spaces was anything but audio, though? Like they’re not streaming 8k video over here like Apple, it’s likely garbage phone audio. No?
Audio is fine afaik
What does “fine” mean?
Lukter comparable to most streaming sites
Wat.
It’s not just the data transfer. It’s also number of connections and the combined load. Scaling theese kind of things can be a nightmare for games doing an auth workflow on launch day and that’s largely just text connections over REST.
Musk was an idiot and fired everybody that could have helped prevent/minimize the impact.
Dude if there’s one thing we’ve done it’s listen to far too much of the drivel that man has to say.
The F(elon) Musk interview.
Could it be that Lonnie is a lying liar? No, not the man who has promised “full self driving” for like a decade and still hasn’t delivered it… He’s not a lying liar, right?
Lonnie lies like a mother fucker. But not as much as the orange shithead.
so so tasty https://i.imgflip.com/903v7x.gif
“Kamala HQ retweeted” is chef’s kiss
“ReTruthed” this was posted by Kamala’s team on Trumps social media site about a minute while it was happening, hahahahaha, it’s the whole two hands chefs makeout, they had this locked and loaded
Could it be because Xitter is made up of spaghetti code hosted on cheapest possible hardware?
Absolutely.
Sidenote: I keep seeing “xitter” being used, is it safe to assume it’s pronounced “shitter”?
Xi sounds like Shi in Mandarin.
I sometimes instead call it Twatter, especially as it’s now full of bigoted twats.
You assume correctly
Xit that’s funny!
Bingo!
So there are only two possibilities - either Vichy Twitter is such a poorly run site that it crashed on its own, or it’s such a poorly run site that it’s not prepared to deal with being DDOSed.
Time to bring back the fail whale
Make it a Starship exploding with dogecoins flying out of it.
Its probably fairly straightforward:
Their new format and infrastructure for video hosting was not properly tested, and they did not expect the amount of bandwidth needed to support viewership demand.
Basically, same thing as a modern AAA live service game launch.
It probably isn’t a DDOS. Its probably just… a distributed amount of viewers requesting more bandwidth than they expected/knew how to serve.
Xhitters full. Don’t light a match or it will blow - it sucks though.
how many russian twitter bots in one place does it take to crash twitter?
probably not very many because it only took a single psychotic new owner to do that when he started pulling servers out of a sacramento data center a couple years back, with no engineering and no planning.
I am still hopeful the Twitter HQ will become a homeless shelter one way or another: Looks like Musky boy just hasn’t been paying rent, so, fingers crossed.
I remember a year back they just turned “off” their microservice architechture (Musk: “Why are we burning so much money in this microservice?”), or the part which allows for autoscaling as per incoming load. So the servers just reached 100% utilization and crashed.
So they’re applying the Tesla method to Twitter now
Except with a modern AAA game, they have an understanding on how things work. This clown doesn’t.
I am remembering a lot of AAA games in the past two years that have launched and basically been unplayable for a day to two weeks due to some kind of combination of not enough servers, garbage netcode, or other game breaking bugs.
Elon just went to a different clown college.
A mandatory class at both AAA game dev flavored clown college and blood diamond mines flavored clown college seems to be the art of talking up a whole lot of cool innovative features and then going hugely over budget and development time and then cutting most of those features for a late delivery date.
(And no, I don’t care if the devs are good at their jobs but management fucked them! is the defense for AAA games. Sure, maybe that’s correct on an internal level. Doesn’t really matter for a consumable product. Would be nice if the idiot asshats got laughed out of the industry instead of new car collections, golden parachutes, but thats a whole 'nother discussion)
Oh, my sweet child, no they don’t xP
I mean, the devs and server techs know what’s going on, its the execs and middle managers that need to get a live service on a shoestring budged to make the shareholders happy that you made them 25% more profit than last quarter.
Well that’s the thing: they would need to hire actual server devs and techs in order to have somebody who knows what’s going on.
Having done both sides, I can tell you that front-end development in gamedev does not in any way form or shape prepare somebody for designing good backends at any level (code or systems architecture), designing multi-tiered systems or even to just design good comms protocols - they’re pretty much opposite sides of development, and not just in a physical or systems structure sense.
I mean, you’re not wrong but I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at. Yeah front end and backend development are very different skillets, but my point is the people working and coding and making the game generally do actually know what they’re doing, but its middle managers are given orders from on high by execs, most of whom probably haven’t touched a video game ever in their lives, keeping the board of directors happy with quarterly profit increases.
I wasn’t talking about the horizontal divide between front end and back end devs, but the vertical divide between management/executives and the devs and techs.
I agree with you.
My point is that it’s not uncommon for the higher ups (and even middle management) to think that making games is making the fancy stuff you see on the screen and not understand that as soon as it involves networking it’s a whole different ball game with a different skill set and considerations: due to thinking that “games developers” should be able to do the whole “game thing” (which in a game with networking is not just frontend but also backend) they won’t hire the people who “work and code” backend stuff and hence know how to do the backend.
In fact in my experience even the people who “work and code” frontend stuff tend to, until they actually try doing it, underestimate the difficulty of backend development and differences between that and what they do, hence overestimate their capability to do it.
The point being that they might not have the people who “work and code” in that specific domain because they didn’t saw the need for different specialists than the ones they already had hence never hired them in the first place.
I enjoyed this way more than I probably should have lol.
You really think an AAA game isn’t more capable than a platform owned and run by Musk? They guy who fired everyone that would make sure shit like that worked. Come on man, the sweet child comment is cute but you’re comparing New York City to some bumfuck town in Indiana.
Its probably just… a distributed amount of viewers requesting more bandwidth than they expected/knew how to serve.
So a Group Hug of Death.
Vichy Twitter
I’m stealing this! It’s way too good!
I stole it myself, so you’re welcome to it.
I have no idea who originated it, but from the first time I saw it, I haven’t used anything else. It just so perfectly sums it up.
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Yes - that’s exactly what it is. Vichy Twitter is to historical Twitter as Vichy France was to historical France.
Twitter is such a poorly run site
It’s run by the guy that started to unplug servers at night so I’m assuming bad infrastructure
lol
Nice that there is one candidate that does interviews.
Trump is so predictable, repetitive and so anti-intellectual, you could generate his responses with AI and they’ll actually be more coherent. It is not enough to do interviews, you have to be sane and informed.
How is X still up? I am equally surprised many are still on the platform given all the bad performance and rate limitations.
lol
Damn, your girl’s got moves!
But are those Indian moves or Black moves?
Yes
Not white moves either way
By Twitter’s standards, the “DDoS” is probably just a lot of people tuning in.
Why is this on c/Technology? Musk isn’t twitter and twitter isn’t tech news.
Because gotta hate on Musk.
This is an article about a tech disaster. “Tech disaster” is literally in the title.
Tech is an abbreviation for “technology.”
Sadly, Musk IS Xitter atm :/
Because technology 🅱️roke
One if the largest social media platforms having tech issues isn’t tech news?
Offtopic, but my son is also named Bort.
Is @son_named_bort@lemmy.world a son who is named bort? Or are they saying they have a son named Bort?
Or that their son was the one responsible for naming Bort?
Yes.
Why is this so familiar? Didn’t he already try and fall to prop up another Republican ghoul the same way? I wonder what the last engineer not fired at Twitter is doing. They still haven’t fixed Twitter’s livestreaming.
I seem to remember a similar blunder as well, maybe it was DeSantis?
“Trump is slurring in a way I’ve never heard from him before,” remarked podcaster Susan Simpson. “Elon sounds like this is maybe the third or fourth time he’s had a conversation with a fellow human.”
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