like for xitter they’re so obsessed in blocking scrapers that they’re blocking also many users
To think how many free content i gave to them 🤮 (now deleted)
I’ve run into this already multiple times. It’s why I finally made the jump over here. I don’t use new Reddit and won’t. The enshitifcation of Reddit has really ramped up.
Yep, same attitude I have!
And so it ends.
Was waiting for them to do something like this for a while, since ads were way less intrusive on old.
They’re even less intrusive when you block them.
Remember to welcome the new users to Lemmy!
Colour me surprised
Every time i accidentally enter new.reddit i revolt with how awful the UI is
You ever feel like that’s a personal limitation? I start feeling a bit like a boomer when I get a strong urge to resist change
That said, fuck Reddit’s admin team/corporate leaders
Maybe a little bit of both. I do feel a strong urge to resist change a lot of the time. Some times I get used to the new thing and it isn’t so bad actually, some times the more I experience the new thing I hate it more. Just keep an open mind and give the new thing an honest shot I think we’ll be ok.
Yeah, I think giving things a fair shot is big. I tend to hate everything windows rolls out with a passion but then I’ll see people that don’t care at all just using the same things I’m making a big stink about
Weeelll Windows specifically falls into the “the more I use the more I hate” camp personally. I got a brand new Win10 laptop like 5 years ago that made me made the jump to Linux and I haven’t looked back since.
Personal limitation? I mean, the UI is worse. Bloated, confusing, and doesn’t look any better. It has extra ads that look both like posts and comments. Fuck that.
I don’t think you understood my comment. Sorry I wasn’t clearer
I wasn’t referencing the UI at all. I was specifically referring to the feeling of revulsion. I personally get that feeling whenever windows rolls out something new
I’m definitely not shilling for the new UI or all the fuckin ads, that’s for sure. lol
I see, I am sorry for argumenting then.
I too feel revulsion when a new Win update rolls out, tho.
Why won’t you do your part to maximize shareholder value?
Stop limiting your potential…
Beyond that, it also just runs way worse; new.reddit takes at least twice as long to load a page than old.reddit. And when your entire business model is based on exploiting my stunted attention span to trick me into reading advertisements, you can’t give me that extra two and a half seconds to realize maybe I don’t give a shit about half the garbage I just mindlessly scrolled through, or else I’m gonna just go, like, fly a kite or something. And I don’t wanna do that, where do you even get a kite?
And hell, it’s entirely possible this rate limit isn’t just restricted to old.reddit, but nobody’s noticed yet because new.reddit is too slow to make 100 requests in a measly 10 minutes.
where do you even get a kite?
I dunno. But I know I would’ve searched best budget kite on reddit before lol.
where do you even get a kite?
I found 1 community that might be able to answer that question, but the last post on there was a year ago: !kiteboarding@discuss.tchncs.de
Betcha there’d be more posts there if people actually knew where to get kites…
Change is only good if it’s an improvement. New Reddit is objectively a worse experience than old Reddit. At least as far as I can tell in the brief times I’ve tried powering through just looking at it when I get there from google or something. There’s a longer delay opening shit (or at least more noticeable because it has a stupid spinning reddit logo instead of blank space or whatever old reddit does), comments are less densely packed. It inserts recommendations to other posts within the comments of the one you’re currently looking at. It’s just terrible.
It’s worst when I feel the UI has been engineered to make it harder finding the information I am looking for and/or make it slower.
I joke that I’m actively turning boomer in my ripe ol’ age of mid 20’s…
And if that means I’ll be kicking and screaming down the road of enshittification of the internet then so be it
No, I agree the enshitifcation is real. I guess part of that is it makes me feel crazy enough to doubt myself
It’s like, I know the internet was for sure better before, but you know what if maybe the 10,000th seemingly unnecessary change that YouTube makes that piss me off is actually a pretty ok or even great thing and I’m all against it like boomers were with computers or how they are now with clean energy or how they are with whatever they’re cranky about any given day?
I guess keeping in mind their goal is to squeeze us dry and profit til infinity, it’s clear these apps will just get as shitty as we’ll put up with
For me it’s not so much that as it is the old layout being easier to work with when mostly browsing text-only subreddits. I think Reddit should be more appreciative of the things that made Reddit this big in the first place, including the design of the site at the time. It’s very much an “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” scenario
I wonder how long before they remove the commenting feature, like Digg did.
They might as well at this point. Look at the top comments in any of the main subs these days, they’re all LLM posts. Just bots having conversations with each other. Half of them you can tell because the bot author used a very minimal prompt so they’re all formatted like every basic ChatGPT response.
And those are just from the ones I can recognize from playing around a bunch with GPT. Gotta wonder how many are going completely undetected. The default subs have been absolutely ruined with bots.
I’ll take your word for it, I haven’t bothered to look back myself.
Digg really killed themselves
09 F9
They’ll never remove it because that’s how they get AI training data.
Another appreciation post from me. The less I use Reddit and YouTube the better my life is. I really don’t see a drawback here.
I remember a while back Reddit removed comments about Lemmy. Like if a subreddit recommended migrating to Lemmy, it would suddenly disappear.
Still happening or nah?
I can’t answer affirmatively. However, today there are numerous posts on Reddit about the fact that they are considering charging money to access certain subreddits. As you would expect, most of the top comments in those threads are not happy and there are numerous comments along the lines of “I wish there were Reddit alternatives” or asking if there are any.
I did not see any responses mentioning Lemmy or the Fediverse, and I looked for it. Now, to be clear, I did not read every comment and every reply in every one of those threads, so it’s possible Lemmy was mentioned and I simply didn’t see it. But it certainly wasn’t prominent in any of those threads at the time I checked.
Example of them removing a mention of a Lemmy instance: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1emgf87/do_you_think_more_people_will_be_convinced_to_try/lh150o2/
Lemmy mentioned here: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1emac0p/some_subreddits_could_be_paywalled_hints_reddit/lgxutvm/
Instead of using Imgur, I’ve been uploading images to posts on Lemmy and then linking to those on Reddit with my comment.
Haven’t had any issues doing that.
The downside to this is, if the instance shuts down, those images won’t be available.Example of them removing a mention of a Lemmy instance: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1emgf87/do_you_think_more_people_will_be_convinced_to_try/lh150o2/
/r/Redditalternatives mentions Reddit a lot.
What might happen is mods removing those posts because it’s “self promotion”
mentions Reddit
?
Think they meant Lemmy. Not sure how they messed up that hard though.
Yes, fixed.
I always feel pain when using the reddit app
Fuck that app, I’m still pissed they killed Apollo. On the rare occasions I go there now, I use SinkIt to make the mobile web experience less bad.
I just went to old.reddit.com and continually clicked links for 10 minutes, loading new pages and comment sections over and over again. I hit no limit.
If you use a VPN you will likely hit the limit, already happened to me
to my knowledge this limit existed already for a long time. it’s intented to prevent scraping and automatic bots. They basically want prevent people from using bots who act as a browser instead of using their API (where they can limit them) to do stuff on reddit.
They also have a automatic system detecting when too many clients access them with similar or “odd” characteristics (weird useragents, referers, amount of requests, weird headers in the request etc.) - if they detect such a case they usually limit you and then completly block you for hours, days or months. I couldn’t open reddit on my chrome app anymore because that as an example (i was developing an reddit client and they detected my useragent browser name as “too old”… so they just banned my browser while others worked fine )
Guess it’s easier to scrape old Reddit. So this won’t affect normal browsing.
“There are no plans to get rid of Old Reddit.” - reddit
Completely expected this, technically they are not removing it, just making it so shit no one would use it. Same move done by twitter when muskrat took over
The redesign doesn’t work on mobile, it just tells you to use their horrendous app. Anyone still relying on reddit should use something like a redlib instance
“There are no plans to get rid of old reddit…”
Makes old reddit more and more user unfriendly…
“User numbers for old reddit have steadily dropped, they prefer our app or the new reddit site, so we no longer see it worthwhile to maintain old reddit. We’re shutting it down.”
Just quit Reddit a few days ago and haven’t looked back. I remember when there was no viable alternative to Reddit, with all other platforms being very sparely populated, but a lot has changed since I recently got into Lemmy as there are actually people here!
After switching to Lemmy I’ve noticed I’ve been feeling a lot happier. Maybe that’s just because of how social media companies design their service to be as addicting as possible, and they do so by making you feel angry. Everything here feels much calmer and more peaceful.
Welcome !
Thanks! 😀
I think it goes deeper than that, and that Reddit has only expanded the hidden moderation so that comments from certain users are seen over those of other users well beyond karma calculations, and that a significant part of the effort to do so is to promote the message they want or are paid for to promote. It’s not a wanton sellout, but with certain topics and in certain subreddits, it’s quite evident that they want to push and promote meme stock, crypto, and neozionist messaging, which look at that, has a close correlation to the interests of its CEO. This has pushed out comments and posts that promote it over sane discussions, which tends to erode into emotionally divisive drivel.
That’s a great point! After October 7 and Israel’s genocide, I was surprised how little attention r/Palestine got compared to r/Ukraine after Russia’s invasion. If you look at the top posts of all time on r/Palestine, the top post only has 10k upvotes and was before October 7, while the top post on r/Ukraine has nearly 200k upvotes and it was right after Russia invaded. It feels like r/Palestine is being silently censored, or I guess you could say being partially shadow-banned.
So I still hang out on reddit a bit, mostly for mechanical keyboards and sports stuff, and they are very clearly letting old.reddit, and therefore RES along with it, die on the vine. You have to pop over to new reddit to do certain administrative things, and you (or at least I) can only upload a single picture on a post, and you have to use the new interface to upload a gallery. Clicking on images now often takes you to a weird new interface landing page instead of the image itself or a page with the old interface. I think they’re going to erode the functionality until people give up and then say, “whelp… nobody was using it! Time to pull the plug!”
At which point I’m probably done. Then, Dystopia is almost the last iOS app standing but I don’t think they’re updating it much, so I’m probably out if/when they go too.
I’ve sort of accepted as a middle aged man with middle aged friends and senior citizen relatives that being tracked across mainstream social media is a thing that will be in my life, so it’s not even ideological, really. Reddit is just a lot less pleasant to use on the new interfaces, with the new monetization mindset, and doesn’t have the “killer app” of my actual friends and family, so it needs to be a pleasant experience and community and not feel like I’m navigating a bot-farm ad-soaked beatdown every time I use it.
mostly for mechanical keyboards
There are good forums for that. People need to go back to forums.
I’d be all for that, and I’m on several. That scene has so many people on Discord though, which is disheartening because Discord is awful.
2nd and 3rd seem very quiet, others are good suggestions, thanks
I dont understand why third party apps don’t work with reddit. If the official app can work fine, surely an app that mimics the official one with the API requests should work, no?
If you can develop a system that can defeat oauth security you can do way more than falsify Reddit API traffic. You could steal all kinds of information.
Some tried. Reddit told them to pay a ridiculous amount.
That said, you can still use the old apps through revanced. I haven’t had a rate limit yet, but I also might not make that many requests, as I don’t use it that much.
They cannot make me download their shit app, and when old.reddit dies then that’s when I stop going even my current once a month.
